Things I'd like players to work on inb pre-season

[Nico]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Seriously disagree with that. First option in defence is to prevent your opponent marking, which frequently involves spoiling. All good defensive players, including Roos and Dunkley, know that. Of course there is the occasion when marking is the right option, but it is important to recognise the difference.

I think what you are saying NMW is that he needs a bit more common sense in his game. If he is playing on a much more physical opponent adjust his game accordingly.

Learn the right and wrong decision making for a situation and be seen to be taking the right option more often. Rather than being one dimensional like a lot of people think he is.

Maybe with an uniterrupted season this will happen anyway, but with the games he has played you would reckon he should be going to the next level by now.

[chammond]

What he needs to improve is his *decision making*, when to mark and when to spoil.

Yep - I think decision making is probably the most important thing he needs to work on.

Oh damn . . . . I think I agree with that. Just let me ponder a bit, and I'll get back to you.

true on the bagfest Lizz however these two have a history of "healthy discussions" between each other, and neither back down.

If you've only had a handful of posts, how could you know that? What other cute pseudonyms do you hide behind?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Nico
I think what you are saying NMW is that he needs a bit more common sense in his game. If he is playing on a much more physical opponent adjust his game accordingly.

Learn the right and wrong decision making for a situation and be seen to be taking the right option more often. Rather than being one dimensional like a lot of people think he is.

Maybe with an uniterrupted season this will happen anyway, but with the games he has played you would reckon he should be going to the next level by now.

Spot on Nico. As I've said before, I think Saddo has talent, but really needs to work on aspects of his game, such as decision making. Given he is a 100-game player, I would have thought he would be further progressed than he is. Hopefully next year is his year to really excel.

[snajik]

I would like to see the decision making of Ben Mathews improve when in a tight situation. He does not deal with pressure well.

Could it be due to carrying an injury during the second half of the season or is Stuart Maxfield's disposal becoming a touch less accurate? Some of the FF games I have seen of late saw him missing targets a bit too regularly when no real pressure was being applied. To see Schwatta's disposal drop away as alarmingly as it did at the end of his career was a bit sad. I'm not saying this is happening with Boofa but I'd like to see his high skill level return.

[gloveski]

From all accounts Stewie carried a bad knee for most of the second half so hopefully that was all it was

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by chammond
You're wrong. He's class.

Not sure who 'people' are, but all that counts is that the Swans rate him very highly.

Now . . . what else was there . . . ah yes . .

Class? You have to be joking. He's a 'pretty boy', I always thought he would make it, but I have serious doubts about him now. Everyone always says 'build him up', well people have been saying that for a number years now, and we still get the ordinary performances from Saddo. He will never be a good Key defender, he gets out-bodied far too easily. May make a reasonable wingman, if he can add some creativity to his game.

I know he had injuries this year, but I didn't exactly see any 'class' coming from him. The complete opposite actually.

[footyhead]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Yep - I think decision making is probably the most important thing he needs to work on. But, I still think some of his defensive work could do with improvement too.

The problem with decision making is that it is basically footy smarts, which is to say the effects of an equation between talent and experience.
He's getting the experience now, but i have never been blown away by his talent. Good Mid -ranged player in my veiw, never will be the Star KPP he longs to be and who so many amoungst us long for him to be.
I think he has been a little over rated because he was a first round draft pick who played in the round one of his first year at the club.
I do remeber a purple patch a couple of years back though , and one game in particular where he took Figjam, out of a game when we were playing the woobles at the SCG !! I enjoyed that.

[footyhead]

Originally posted by snajik
. To see Schwatta's disposal drop away as alarmingly as it did at the end of his career was a bit sad. I'm not saying this is happening with Boofa but I'd like to see his high skill level return.

BUT SCWATTA AT HIS BEST WAS A BEAUTIFULL DELIVERER OF THE BALL. HIS 40 METER SPEAR PASSES ONTO THE CHEST OF OUR MIGHTY FULL FORWARD WERE AWSOME TO WATCH!

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by footyhead
BUT SCWATTA AT HIS BEST WAS A BEAUTIFULL DELIVERER OF THE BALL. HIS 40 METER SPEAR PASSES ONTO THE CHEST OF OUR MIGHTY FULL FORWARD WERE AWSOME TO WATCH!

It was just pure magic!

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Re: Things I'd like players to work on inb pre-season

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Jason Saddington: Defensive punching (and positioning and strengthening)

I still hold grave fears as to whether is up to it as a key position player. Of course he is more mobile than Schauble, but I seriously doubt his ability to keep big-built bullocking forwards such as Jonathan Brown quiet.

One player I still think there is a lot to work with is LRT. He seems to take forever to kick the pill sometimes. How you get him to overcome this indecisiveness is something I'm not sure how they'll rectify, to be quite honest.

And still could do a fare bit of work to strengthen his upper body, as well as a fair bit more work on his foot skills, especially on the run.

JF

[chammond]

Class? You have to be joking.

I never joke.

He's a 'pretty boy', I always thought he would make it, but I have serious doubts about him now. Everyone always says 'build him up', well people have been saying that for a number years now, and we still get the ordinary performances from Saddo.

Who are these "everyone" and "people" you keep quoting. To the best of my knowledge, it's only you and a handful of posters on this board who make these specious claims.

He will never be a good Key defender,

He already is.

he gets out-bodied far too easily.

He doesn't.

May make a reasonable wingman, if he can add some creativity to his game.

He's already been a more than reasonable wingman.

I know he had injuries this year, but I didn't exactly see any 'class' coming from him. The complete opposite actually

There's none so blind . . . . .

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by footyhead
The problem with decision making is that it is basically footy smarts, which is to say the effects of an equation between talent and experience.

True, but footy smarts can develop with age and experience. Also, a well-drilled player can find it easier to make decisions.

[NMWBloods]

Re: Re: Things I'd like players to work on inb pre-season

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
I still hold grave fears as to whether is up to it as a key position player. Of course he is more mobile than Schauble, but I seriously doubt his ability to keep big-built bullocking forwards such as Jonathan Brown quiet.

I'm also not convinced he will make a great key position defender, but he is a useful sweeper/HBF and could still become much much better.

One player I still think there is a lot to work with is LRT. He seems to take forever to kick the pill sometimes. How you get him to overcome this indecisiveness is something I'm not sure how they'll rectify, to be quite honest.

And still could do a fare bit of work to strengthen his upper body, as well as a fair bit more work on his foot skills, especially on the run.

JF

The problem with LRT is simply that he has not played a lot of football yet, coming to it at a late age. As he develops more experience and the game becomes more and more natural to him, I think this indecision will disappear.

The strengthening part would be invaluable.

[Plugger46]

Chammond,

"Everyone" and "People" are fellow swans supporters, that I keep quoting. He's already a good key postion player? That statement astonishes me. What about all the towelling he copped from key forwards this year? A finished Wayne Carey gave him a touch up, and played his best game for the year on Saddo. Jonathon Brown killed him, then C.Bolton went on to him, and stopped him. Need I go on?

How can you say he doesn't get out-bodied, when it's so blatantly obvious that he does. He gets thrown around like a rag-doll.

He hasn't played much footy on the wing, but the footy he has played on the wing, hasn't exactly been thrilling.

So, Chammond, tell me where this 'class' is? Because as far as I'm concerned it's a myth. Enlighten me.

[robbieando]

chammond, hate to disagree with you, but Saddo isn't a good key position defender, however thats not to say he isn't a good defender. He gets outbodied on the better forwards in the league and I believe the club would be better off putting him on a player each week that suits him, not try and hope he can take someone above his weight.

I just believe that he isn't capable to taking the likes of Carey or Jon Brown. While Schauble will take the number 1 forward each week, the same can't be said of Saddo, it really depends on who the number 2 forward is.

That being said he is a good defender who does his best work floating across the back line and not lining up on a Brown.