Saddington's future needs defence

[NMWBloods]

No no - you don't understand. Reggi's right because Reggi says he is right!

[Reggi]

Originally posted by Captain
Reggi you are a dead set goose.

Saying Jackovich wasn't a defensive player is rubbish. Are you not old enough to remember the duels between Jacko and Carey?????? Jacko absolutely towelled up Carey on numerous occasions when Carey was at his peak. The mere suggestion that Saddo is capable of such feats makes me laugh until I cry.

Nick Davis is loaded with natural talent. If he matched his talent with training and attitude then he would be an absolute superstar.

Nearly all of the anti Saddo sentiments posted on here were confirmed in the article. No one has changed their tune, it's only you hotfooting around like a politician trying to say you were misquoted.

When you are wrong have the guts to admit it.

Again we just get abuse, and arguements that are all over the shop.

I referred very clearly to Jakovich as a stopper. Try reading posts before you choose to make an idiot of yourself.

Please point out where I changed anything I said on this matter?

And before anyone starts saying what I have and haven't said on N Davis, always said his and always will be just a fair and not a good AFL player.

Dean Rioli is naturally talented

[NMWBloods]

Saying someone is a goose is hardly abusive!!

To say Jakovich was all about stopping is not true - he was both an outstanding defender and accomplished attacker - would be hard to amass about 18dpg otherwise.

You did say that Saddo was fine at CHB and the problem was with the midfield - now that's not the case obviously?!?

As for Nick Davis, you did say he would only be a fair player. But you also said that he was not a reliable kick to team mates over any distance and he is less talented than plenty of players on our list. Of course, you seemed to be the only one who thought that.

[ZimZum]

Hate to say it. We had a chance to trade him to Carlton a couple of years ago for a first round draft pick. I think we should have taken it. Saddo is not strong enough to play down back, and there are not many other options. Sometimes players just fade away. I hope I am wrong.

[Cheer Cheer]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
As for Nick Davis, you did say he would only be a fair player. But you also said that he was not a reliable kick to team mates over any distance and he is less talented than plenty of players on our list. Of course, you seemed to be the only one who thought that.

I cant wait for his response to back out of this - and how he thought it up in the first place - and who he thinks are more talented - Please enlighten us ?

[motorace_182]

Deadset lads, get over it!!!! If u wanna bitch to each other, piss off to another board, even better, a Pies board.

[gloveski]

Give Saddo a break one bad game doesn't make a season , hopefully the match commitee may finally realise Saddo is no CHB a floating winger who can fpush down back is were he should be played.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by gloveski
Give Saddo a break one bad game doesn't make a season , hopefully the match commitee may finally realise Saddo is no CHB a floating winger who can fpush down back is were he should be played.

This is what the so-called Anti-Saddo group are talking about. He isn't a CHB, so stop trying to make him one. No one is calling for him to be dropped, we just want to see him being used in a position or role that suits him. Other than that, the crap on this thread and other like it is getting out of hand.

You have one side saying he isn't a CHB and should be used elsewhere in the team, yet you have the other side saying you can't drop him after one bad match/because he has had injury/you can't knock a Swans player.

I say build a bridge and get over it.

[Bear]

as per my previous posts on Saddo, he IS a very good footballer.

he will never be a CHB though as he doesn't have the natural ability to do what is vital for a KPP, and that is body out players at the critical moment. this is not so much a problem with his "weakness" but his timing and natural senses.

the thing that worries me is he has always been openly encouraged to be a key defender by our coaches, and he himself aims to be this... they need another wake up call, which they have had more than enough of IMO

play him on a wing and he will be a star IMO

[Rob-bloods]

Chill out guys, and regarding the goose.......

Originally posted by motorace_182
Deadset lads, get over it!!!! If u wanna bitch to each other, piss off to another board, even better, a Pies board.

Here here, why is everyone so tetchy, a new year, an opening matchloss, Pre Match Tension perhaps?

In addition, my dictionary entry for "goose" gives the swans a guernsey!........now which one exactly refers to Reggginauld?

Main Entry: 1goose
Pronunciation: 'g?s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural geese /'gEs/
Etymology: Middle English gos, from Old English gOs; akin to Old High German gans goose, Latin anser, Greek chEn


1 a : any of numerous large waterfowl (family Anatidae) that are intermediate between the swans and ducks and have long necks, feathered lores, and reticulate tarsi b : a female goose as distinguished from a gander
2 : SIMPLETON, DOLT
3 plural goos?es : a tailor's smoothing iron with a gooseneck handle
4 plural goos?es : a poke between the buttocks

[Steve]

Re: Saddington's future needs defence

Originally posted by Reggi
(Roos) is not contemplating dropping (Saddington) for the (Fremantle) game but admits he is tossing around a positional change ... to try to develop some consistency to his game.

Go back under two years and you could have slotted Eade, Goodes and Melbourne in the same quote.

For a player who is becoming increasingly maligned Saddington has never had that many goals kicked on him - in Rd 1 alone there were 5 key defenders who had 5 or more goals kicked on them.

Other than his battles with Tarrant, which have been debated at length, I'd query who else has kicked a bag of goals on Saddington.

You'd think it'd be a lot given that he he lacks strength, can't punch, doesn't read the play etc etc.

[Dpw]

Re: Re: Saddington's future needs defence

Originally posted by Steve
Go back under two years and you could have slotted Eade, Goodes and Melbourne in the same quote.

For a player who is becoming increasingly maligned Saddington has never had that many goals kicked on him - in Rd 1 alone there were 5 key defenders who had 5 or more goals kicked on them.

Other than his battles with Tarrant, which have been debated at length, I'd query who else has kicked a bag of goals on Saddington.

You'd think it'd be a lot given that he he lacks strength, can't punch, doesn't read the play etc etc.

You don't have to kick a bag to destroy a team and thats saddo's weakness hes not tight enough on his man and his concentration for four qauters is a issue. a change on a wing or forward flank could be the tonic to get him up and firing.

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by gloveski
Give Saddo a break one bad game doesn't make a season , hopefully the match commitee may finally realise Saddo is no CHB a floating winger who can fpush down back is were he should be played.

When was his last good season....3 years ago. Don't think every player running around in a red and white jumper is a star.

[NMWBloods]

Re: Re: Saddington's future needs defence

Originally posted by Steve
For a player who is becoming increasingly maligned Saddington has never had that many goals kicked on him - in Rd 1 alone there were 5 key defenders who had 5 or more goals kicked on them.

Other than his battles with Tarrant, which have been debated at length, I'd query who else has kicked a bag of goals on Saddington.

Well, who remembers more than a season ago in great detail, but last season we had Tarrant 5, Carey 5, Brown 3 in half a qtr, and Medhurst 3. Can't recall who else he played on. It doesn't have to be a bag of goals anyway, as we saw on Saturday, and as we see in many other games.

I hardly think making observations of a professional football player's performance is maligning him.

[Reggi]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Saying someone is a goose is hardly abusive!!

To say Jakovich was all about stopping is not true - he was both an outstanding defender and accomplished attacker - would be hard to amass about 18dpg otherwise.

You did say that Saddo was fine at CHB and the problem was with the midfield - now that's not the case obviously?!?

As for Nick Davis, you did say he would only be a fair player. But you also said that he was not a reliable kick to team mates over any distance and he is less talented than plenty of players on our list. Of course, you seemed to be the only one who thought that.

I cannot ever recall saying that about Davis, excpet that I do not think he is as talented as other players on our list.

Clearly wasn't the only one who thought it, cause I made my only comments on Davis in support of DR J

Jakovich was a very defensive minded CHB - and a very ordinary disposer of the footy, was never a quality attacking CHB despite his stats, he was a great CHB for West Coast from 92 - 96 all the same.

As I say, if you have a point make it, cause the only thing you have ever shown an aptitude for is gutless sniping.