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  • cressakel
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2004
    • 455

    #46
    Originally posted by Newbie
    Is Mal Micheal an Aboriginal? I thought he is?
    Papua New Guinea - and we can't judge those players yet as he is the first from this part of the world !!
    Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential

    Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.

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    • sharp9
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2508

      #47
      I think you'll find he's from Papua New Guinea
      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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      • JF_Bay22_SCG
        expat Sydneysider
        • Jan 2003
        • 3978

        #48
        Originally posted by midaro
        ... you got some info?
        To me, he looks to be moving very well - when he gets near the ball (which hasen't been often).
        We know how the Swans are somewhat selective of the truth in relation to players' injuries. I think Goodes IS definitely carrying an injury.

        An injured player turned up to banner-making on Saturday. When quizzed about whether Goodes having an injury, he was very non-commital.

        From close range Goodesy did look to be kinda labouring.

        Who knows, if the club doesn't issue a statement either way then it only feeds the rumour mill.

        I have my own suspicions personally.

        JF
        "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
        (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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        • Charlie
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4101

          #49
          If the Swans think its a tactical advantage to keep an injury quiet... good for them.

          What is not a tactical advantage is playing Goodes in the forward line. If that's the only part of the ground that he's capable of playing as of now, I'd rather he didn't play, and allowed his hypothetical injury to heal.

          Really, he is only detracting from our gameplan there, not adding to it.
          We hate Anthony Rocca
          We hate Shannon Grant too
          We hate scumbag Gaspar
          But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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          • hammo
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2003
            • 5554

            #50
            Goodes should be playing the majority of each game at ruck rover.

            This is the position where Hird and in the past Koutafides have been most damaging.

            He would be spared the extra rigours of rucking and because of his mobility and size is still very hard for opposing teams to mark up on.

            I am not sure if he is injured or just lost position-wise at the moment. The most disturbing thing about his play this season is lack of accountability in defence.

            He seems to be moving OK in attack but when he has to chase down an opponent he looks sluggish.

            His hands have also been poor this year - not taking as many contested marks as he is capable of.
            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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            • lizz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16778

              #51
              I notice that in last year's AFL stats Goodes was listed at 92kg. This year he's listed at 96kg. I know that the AFL guides need to be treated as an approximation at times, but if he has put on that much weight, could it have affected his leg speed? We've all noticed that he doesn't seem to be running nearly as well this year as he was last, and if it's not an injury causing the problem, maybe it's this. I accept this is complete guesswork, but it may be a factor.

              A loss of leg speed might also be contributing to his skill deterioration if he doesn't have as much time (or even if he thinks he doesn't have as much time) to execute, particularly his kicking.

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9721

                #52
                Originally posted by hammo
                Goodes should be playing the majority of each game at ruck rover.

                This is the position where Hird and in the past Koutafides have been most damaging.

                He would be spared the extra rigours of rucking and because of his mobility and size is still very hard for opposing teams to mark up on.
                DAMN STRAIGHT!
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • Go Swannies
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5697

                  #53
                  The last few games, I think Doyle and Ball would have been able to outrun Goodess from what I saw. If he can't run fast and turn hard he's going to be wasted in the midfield. We need him fit and if you watch him for five minutes you'll realise he's not. (Or his head is really messed up.)

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                  • silent lurker
                    BLT Razzle Dazzle
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 195

                    #54
                    With reference to Aboriginal players in defence, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Dion Woods for Fremantle.
                    We all dream of a team of BLTs!

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                    • penga
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2601

                      #55
                      personally, i think it is the ankle injury he sustained in the second quarter in rd 1 that is causing the issue

                      IIRC he started in the ruck that game and was going great guns causing havoc around the ground UNTIL...
                      C'mon Chels!

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                      • hemsleys
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #56
                        Originally posted by penga
                        personally, i think it is the ankle injury he sustained in the second quarter in rd 1 that is causing the issue

                        IIRC he started in the ruck that game and was going great guns causing havoc around the ground UNTIL...

                        Agree, he hasn't been the same since that moment.

                        It was mentioned about that goal he kicked when he came back on, but that is about all he has done.

                        And with all the secrecy about injuries... Does any remember that bloke, nickname was Plugger (I think)?? Must have been using the same Minister of Misinformation, back then too.

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                        • dendol
                          fat-arsed midfielder
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1483

                          #57
                          On TF last night - i know i said im never watching it again, but thats not the point right now - they finally managed to squeeze in some analysis of the swans. I don?t think David Parkin and Tim Watson have any idea on the Swans and how we are going. They are media journos who only read what other journos dish out. They said:

                          1. Sydney should have won because the conditions favoured us. I don?t know our record in the wet, but I cant imagine its any good.
                          2. Sydney have been beaten this season because we haven?t been able to stop the monster forwards of the comp. They must have bought Roos? comments about needing to recruit a strong fullback.
                          3. Goodes has been sadly out of form in the forward line and needs to play in the ruck. The interesting thing about this comment is that Tim Watson added that we should see the Goodes of old once he gets over his injury. What injury? What does he know that we don?t know? Roos, nor anyone else for that matter, has ever mentioned that Goodes was carrying an injury. We have all speculated on this as a possible reason for his slump. Its possible that Watson made a mistake, but Im not so sure.

                          Maybe it was my mind playing tricks with my ears at 1:30am last night. Anyone?

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #58
                            Originally posted by dendol
                            On TF last night - i know i said im never watching it again, but thats not the point right now - they finally managed to squeeze in some analysis of the swans. I don?t think David Parkin and Tim Watson have any idea on the Swans and how we are going. They are media journos who only read what other journos dish out. They said:
                            I think they are just about of the most useless people in the media currently, which is saying an awful lot.
                            1. Sydney should have won because the conditions favoured us.
                            I can't see why they would think this.

                            I don?t know our record in the wet, but I cant imagine its any good.
                            I think we've won 3 of our last 9.
                            2. Sydney have been beaten this season because we haven?t been able to stop the monster forwards of the comp. They must have bought Roos? comments about needing to recruit a strong fullback.
                            I don't think this is the reason we have been losing. I think that is very lazy analysis.

                            Now Sopranos is back I don't waste my time watching crap such as TF!!
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • Go Swannies
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 5697

                              #59
                              Originally posted by dendol
                              On TF last night - i know i said im never watching it again, but thats not the point right now - they finally managed to squeeze in some analysis of the swans. I don?t think David Parkin and Tim Watson have any idea on the Swans and how we are going. They are media journos who only read what other journos dish out. They said:

                              1. Sydney should have won because the conditions favoured us. I don?t know our record in the wet, but I cant imagine its any good.
                              2. Sydney have been beaten this season because we haven?t been able to stop the monster forwards of the comp. They must have bought Roos? comments about needing to recruit a strong fullback.
                              3. Goodes has been sadly out of form in the forward line and needs to play in the ruck. The interesting thing about this comment is that Tim Watson added that we should see the Goodes of old once he gets over his injury. What injury? What does he know that we don?t know? Roos, nor anyone else for that matter, has ever mentioned that Goodes was carrying an injury. We have all speculated on this as a possible reason for his slump. Its possible that Watson made a mistake, but Im not so sure.

                              Maybe it was my mind playing tricks with my ears at 1:30am last night. Anyone?
                              I would have the thought the Pies game last year would have ended any idea that we were good in the wet.

                              And the opposition monster forwards could have been up at the Sushi Train early if we denied them possession - as it was, it was Nick D who had time to spare all afternoon.

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                              • Mike_B
                                Peyow Peyow
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 6267

                                #60
                                On Ch 10, they said several players were heading over early (how Thursday is early for a 4 hour flight before a Saturday game is beyond me), but then also that Goodes would be played in the ruck.

                                I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                                If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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