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  • swansrule100
    The quarterback
    • May 2004
    • 4538

    #16
    Originally posted by stevej
    Andrew Bomford for pick 36 in 1998 draft (Danny Jacobs)!!!!! Now there is a great trade... LOL!
    would of been better of trading for a new hose to water the ground
    Theres not much left to say

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    • Bleed Red Blood
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2003
      • 2057

      #17
      Daniel Bradshaw, fits in all the criteria that Sharp9 came up with, only 25, experienced, can play CHB or FF.Will be hard to get him away from the Lions though.

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #18
        I think we should look at players such as:

        Ottens
        Bradshaw
        Nathan Thompson
        Henneman
        Ray Hall

        The abilities of the above differ dramatically, however they are all KPP that would potentially be a very good fit whether it be to escape the Melbourne media, hometown/state etc.

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        • midaro
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 1042

          #19
          Originally posted by Captain
          I think we should look at players such as:

          Ottens
          Bradshaw
          Nathan Thompson
          Henneman
          Ray Hall

          The abilities of the above differ dramatically, however they are all KPP that would potentially be a very good fit whether it be to escape the Melbourne media, hometown/state etc.
          Ottens - Yes
          Bradshaw - OMG YES!!!!!!!!!
          Nathan Thompson - Maybe
          Henneman - No (I will not accuse you of smoking crack if you edit your post immediately )
          Ray Hall - No

          IMO we'd be better to build our talent from the ground up. I'd be happy with 0 trades again; and only the compulsory 3 draft choices. Do that every year for a decade and I reckon we'd win a premiership.

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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            #20
            Originally posted by midaro

            Henneman - No (I will not accuse you of smoking crack if you edit your post immediately )
            No crack today!

            I think Henno would be a handy addition to the side PROVIDED we give up pittance - ie a very, very late pick. He has size, strength and is able to play key position.

            Pick 64 for Henneman I would take anyday. He could slot straight into the back 6, ala B2, and enable Goodesy to play on the ball.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #21
              Most people, particularly Essendon fans, reckon Henneman is a dud.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • robbieando
                The King
                • Jan 2003
                • 2750

                #22
                Originally posted by Captain
                I think we should look at players such as:
                Ottens - Yes, Yes, Yes. A move just might what he needs to become the player everyone thought he would be. Would be the perfect replacement for Ball long term. However Richmond are unlikely to let him go and if they did they would be looking for at least a top quality player and a first round pick.

                Bradshaw - Yes, however the main problem will be that he is under contract at seasons end and the Lions would be unlikely to trade him with Lynch looking like he'll retire. Will cost way too much to get and in all likelyhood won't even be available.

                Nathan Thompson - I'm sure many would say a move to Sydney would be the perfect thing for him. Problem is his depression was caused by living in Melbourne away from his family in Country Victoria and to solve it he moved back home this year. Could be available, but too much of a risk at the price.

                Henneman - Oh god no. There is a reason why Essendon fans don't like him - HE IS A DUD.

                Ray Hall - As a back up KP Defender he might be of some value, but don't think he is anymore than that. I really don't see why people on here like this guy. If it wasn't for the fact he is from NSW, most wouldn't even give him a second look. If he were to be available (and Richmond have said he isn't) the cost to get him would be too great because Richmond don't want to let him go and he is under contract and really doesn't want to move to Sydney that much anyway.

                Overall, yes we should look for a KP player in the trade season, however I think our major need in the trade period is a midfielder who can open up the game. Get one of those and we are set. All we would need then is a back up defender and ruckman for the future.
                Once was, now elsewhere

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                • swansrule100
                  The quarterback
                  • May 2004
                  • 4538

                  #23
                  Ottens would be an ideal pick up... but i can imagine the inflated price he will seek will be very high.


                  As long as we are careful we must have a pretty bad record at drafting people off other clubs... we have had awesome players like lockett, hall, williams etc...but weve also had some duds
                  Theres not much left to say

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                  • lizz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16778

                    #24
                    Originally posted by swansrule100
                    As long as we are careful we must have a pretty bad record at drafting people off other clubs... we have had awesome players like lockett, hall, williams etc...but weve also had some duds
                    If you were to actually list them out I think you'd find that, since 1994 when the Swans finally started to become a competitive outfit, the number of true quality players that the Swans have picked up from other clubs, whether by trade or drafting delisted players, significantly outweighs the duds. And most of the ordinary pick ups were late or pre-season draft picks.

                    This probably isn't a complete list but...

                    Lockett
                    Roos
                    Maxfield
                    Dyson
                    Schwass
                    Schauble
                    Ball
                    Williams
                    Hall
                    Bolton
                    Davis
                    all can / could play a bit.

                    Warfe
                    Ahmat
                    O'Connor
                    Allison
                    Orchard

                    all gave some value.

                    Bomford
                    Russell
                    Hawking
                    Green
                    Tingay
                    Daffy

                    are the only "fails" that I can think of (excluding those who were just taken via the rookie draft, like Bennett, Brockman, O'Loughlin, Obst)

                    I'm sure someone will enlighten me on who I've missed. But overall that looks like a decent success rate to me.

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                    • swansrule100
                      The quarterback
                      • May 2004
                      • 4538

                      #25
                      yeh since 1994 we have been quite good

                      i meant the club since 1897 has poached some duds or players simply past it
                      Theres not much left to say

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                      • sharp9
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2508

                        #26
                        Henneman definitely a dud.
                        Ray Hall a back up qulaity only...therefore not worth investing time/energy to get via trade.

                        Ottens and Bradshaw are stand-outs.

                        N. Thompson is nearly 30 anyway. Jonathan Hay might want a fresh start, though.

                        Staker and Playfair are N.S.W. boys who seem to have talent but are in long queues at their clubs behind other young talls.
                        "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                        • Captain
                          Captain of the Side
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3602

                          #27
                          All this Henneman bashing is a bit rough.

                          The bloke has had shocking luck with injuries, has only played a handful of games and has played out of position too many times (anyone remember him having to help carry the ruck against Freo in the final last year).

                          Henneman has still a lot to do before he proves himself as an AFL player, but I think the potential is definately there. Worth having a look at.

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                          • timthefish
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 940

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Captain
                            Ottens
                            I used to think this guy was the cure for all ills suffered by any team, but having watched the odd interview i've concluded the bloke is as dumb as dogsh|t. he's got all the skills and athleticism, but i don't think we'll ever see him rise above that raw ability.

                            Bradshaw would be a fantastic pickup, but if he came up as trade potential we'd have to fight geelong tooth and nail to get him as he would suit them perfectly.
                            then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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                            • midaro
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1042

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Captain
                              All this Henneman bashing is a bit rough.

                              The bloke has had shocking luck with injuries, has only played a handful of games and has played out of position too many times (anyone remember him having to help carry the ruck against Freo in the final last year).

                              Henneman has still a lot to do before he proves himself as an AFL player, but I think the potential is definately there. Worth having a look at.
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                              It's OK Captain, help is available.

                              Don't take another puff

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                #30
                                Originally posted by midaro
                                Help Lines NSW:
                                (02) 9361 2111 (metropolitan)
                                1800 422 599 (other areas)

                                It's OK Captain, help is available.

                                Don't take another puff

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