Trade Goodes?

[NMWBloods]

I'd swap Goodes for Black in a second, but that's not going to happen.

Even taking into account injuries, Goodes didn't have a good season. Before doing his first knee, he had played 1 good game, 2 reasonable games and 4 pretty poor games.

[caj23]

i wouldn't trade him for Power, would take Black though

not going to happen though so a completely irrelevant question

[Jimmy C]

Keep Goodes. Trade Bolton. Don't let Schneider anywhere near a footy until his fitness is well proven.

[Charlie]

Goodes made me angry tonight. It was the accumulation of a year of frustration and disappointment for me. He is the player who I can't help singling out.

I know he's injured. I know he's not moving freely. But he was on the field, evidently because he and the coaching staff believed he was able to play. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have been there.

It wasn't so much what he couldn't do, as what he didn't do. He just didn't go after the hard ball; didn't make an effort to man up. Didn't make an effort to chase down an opponent, or make a second effort when the first wasn't enough. None of the application I expect of an A-grade player in a do-or-die final.

That made me mad. However...

Adam Goodes is the sort of once-in-a-generation talent that you just don't trade. I realised that last year, and as incensed as I was watching his 'performance', I realise that now. He will win another Brownlow, body willing, and maybe even a third. He's only 24 and he has 135 games to his name. He's one of the two or three obvious choices to captain the club. His value in the marketplace could never approach what he should be worth to the club over the next six or seven years.

Trade him, and future generations of footy fans will laugh at us. I'm confident of that.

[robbieando]

Trade Goodes?????

Hell no.

Sure tonight he put in a shocker, but I don't think he has the mindset to play in the wet and certainly not in the position he was played in tonight. Really I think tonight he put in his worst performance ever.

Let him get over his knee injuries, get a good pre season under his belt and move him back into the centre for next season and leave the defending to those who can do it well, not Goodes who seems like he can't man up and get out marked by hacks. He is a good player who has played injuried and out of position. I wouldn't write him off yet, nor would I even dream of trading him (did that once - never again)

[Jimmy C]

Originally posted by Charlie
Goodes made me angry tonight. It was the accumulation of a year of frustration and disappointment for me. He is the player who I can't help singling out.

I know he's injured. I know he's not moving freely. But he was on the field, evidently because he and the coaching staff believed he was able to play. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have been there.

It wasn't so much what he couldn't do, as what he didn't do. He just didn't go after the hard ball; didn't make an effort to man up. Didn't make an effort to chase down an opponent, or make a second effort when the first wasn't enough. None of the application I expect of an A-grade player in a do-or-die final.

That made me mad. However...

Adam Goodes is the sort of once-in-a-generation talent that you just don't trade. I realised that last year, and as incensed as I was watching his 'performance', I realise that now. He will win another Brownlow, body willing, and maybe even a third. He's only 24 and he has 135 games to his name. He's one of the two or three obvious choices to captain the club. His value in the marketplace could never approach what he should be worth to the club over the next six or seven years.

Trade him, and future generations of footy fans will laugh at us. I'm confident of that.

I agree with all of this. An injured Goodes has more value on the park than an injured Schneider/Davis et al, regardless of his performance tonight. DO NOT trade Goodes!!! If any of our players has any remote semblance of match winning ability-this guy is it. He'll win his second Brownlow in 2005

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Charlie
Goodes made me angry tonight. It was the accumulation of a year of frustration and disappointment for me. He is the player who I can't help singling out.

I know he's injured. I know he's not moving freely. But he was on the field, evidently because he and the coaching staff believed he was able to play. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have been there.

It wasn't so much what he couldn't do, as what he didn't do. He just didn't go after the hard ball; didn't make an effort to man up. Didn't make an effort to chase down an opponent, or make a second effort when the first wasn't enough. None of the application I expect of an A-grade player in a do-or-die final.

That made me mad. However...

Adam Goodes is the sort of once-in-a-generation talent that you just don't trade. I realised that last year, and as incensed as I was watching his 'performance', I realise that now. He will win another Brownlow, body willing, and maybe even a third. He's only 24 and he has 135 games to his name. He's one of the two or three obvious choices to captain the club. His value in the marketplace could never approach what he should be worth to the club over the next six or seven years.

Trade him, and future generations of footy fans will laugh at us. I'm confident of that.

Great post Charlie, sums up really what I'm think. Yes I'm dirty with his efforts tonight and yes I think what was the point of playing, but I agree trade him and we'll more than regret it. One poor effort isn't the reason to trade him

[lescygnes]

goodesy, if youre reading this. ignore it!!!

everyone is entitled to a bad day at the office occasionally. like me today.

cheers
john

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by lescygnes
goodesy, if youre reading this. ignore it!!!

everyone is entitled to a bad day at the office occasionally. like me today.

Your day would have had to have been pretty darn ordinary JM.

With lots of fumbling documents around the office. Or coffee flying off the table on the full.

JF

[lescygnes]

jesus h christ. that bad eh? might give the replay a miss next week.....

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by robbieando
Sure tonight he put in a shocker, but I don't think he has the mindset to play in the wet and certainly not in the position he was played in tonight. Really I think tonight he put in his worst performance ever.

Tep, his 30 seconds against the Eagles wasn't as bad!

[hammo]

Ridiculous to even suggest trading Goodes. He needs to get back to full fitness and then he'll be back to his best. I hope last night was just an abboration.

It also beyond belief that anyone could consider tarding Jude Bolton. Why get rid the one player who had a decent dig last night and has played two of his best games for the club in the finals.

[cruiser]

Goodes plays a bad game, one of many who were beaten last night by their opponents, and true to form the knives are out and someones talking about trading him. Good grief. I've just gotten home from Melbourne and I probably haven't slept enough to be able to deal calmly with such nonsense.

[anne]

Originally posted by hammo
Ridiculous to even suggest trading Goodes. He needs to get back to full fitness and then he'll be back to his best. I hope last night was just an abboration.

It also beyond belief that anyone could consider tarding Jude Bolton. Why get rid the one player who had a decent dig last night and has played two of his best games for the club in the finals.

This is one of the most intelligent posts I have read on this board. If the club even considers trading Goodes or Bolton I, and probably many, many others would give up on the Swans.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Jimmy C
Keep Goodes. Trade Bolton. Don't let Schneider anywhere near a footy until his fitness is well proven.

Hope Schneider grows a heart muscle over summer.