So what are we willing to give for Ottens??

[ihamilto]

Re: Re: Re: Re: So what are we willing to give for Ottens??

Originally posted by Bear
Whilst SSI is well-intentioned, they cause many more problems than they 'solve'.

When they think they have had a 'victory' on the appointment of the coach, they will be emboldened and want a say in the next issue, and the next - player trades, where we play home games, design of our uniform, etc, etc... (where would it end??).

Aside from the absurdity of people who have little inside knowledge of the facts wanting a say in important decisions, this would disenfranchise other supporters and split the club, create populist (politician-like) decision making, and divert the focus of our administrators away from their key duties. Anyone involved with this group needs to think very carefully about this.

If they ever get a seat (or seats) on the board then it will truly be a case of the inmates running the asylum and time to rip/cut up my membership. I am sure you would see a 'No SSI' ticket start if they make a formal bid for the board.

Bottom line - we pay professional football administrators to make fully informed decisions, so unless something outrageous is happenong, we must have faith in this system.


My view on what we should give up for Ottens. Two of 22, 12, 20, first round draft pick. Definitely not 5.

Being a
country supporter I am not familiar with SSI but I am curious they
seem to get plenty of mentions can anyone enlighten me as to
what role they actually have. As far as recruiting goes I am happy
to leave it in the hands of Roos Barham and the football people
at the club. cheers Ian

[ScottH]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So what are we willing to give for Ottens??

Originally posted by ihamilto
Being a
country supporter I am not familiar with SSI but I am curious they
seem to get plenty of mentions can anyone enlighten me as to
what role they actually have. As far as recruiting goes I am happy
to leave it in the hands of Roos Barham and the football people
at the club. cheers Ian

http://www.swanssupporters.org/news.htm

[Bear]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So what are we willing to give for Ottens??

Originally posted by Mike_B
You sound like a Melbourne supporter referring to players by their numbers!

laziness... it's a bit quicker!

[sprite]

"I think we could pick up pick 13 from adelaide which they will receive from WCE for stenglein

pick 13 and 15 would be what i would be willing to trade"

posted by penga

I may have missed something, but why would we get the Adelaide 13 pick?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by sprite
I may have missed something, but why would we get the Adelaide 13 pick?

Fosdike?

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Swansinger
Well fair enough Damien you may well be right.
But I do know that the club has said to me and others - in writing that they take "very seriously" the fans concerns on this issue.

If the club takes into account ANY fans opinion when deciding on whether or not to trade for a player, then they can take a running jump. To be honest the only time I think the club even remotely listened to the fans was during the Carey trade talk in 2002 and even then if the club felt right about the trade, they would of made it regardless of what us fans had to say on the issue on here, in the newspaper and via letters, email and faxs to the club.

I have in the past like most others on this site have expressed my views on how we should handle the trade period and the draft itself. I have posted phantom drafts in each of the past two seasons and will do so again this season. I will and have put out a list of trade bait (Saddo, Fosdike and Ablett), trade targets (Crawford, Notting, Ottens and Ball) and delistings (WarfE, MJ, Sundqvist and Malceski).

Just because I do it doesn't mean I want the club to do as I say, it would be nice but I'll repect any decision the club makes and at the end of the day I hope that we made a trade or missed out on a trade based solely on the opinion of a fan or group of fans.

[motorace_182]

Originally posted by Swansinger
Well fair enough Damien you may well be right.
But I do know that the club has said to me and others - in writing that they take "very seriously" the fans concerns on this issue.

So let me get this straight....you believe that yourself and SSI have a part in trade and match day selections?? I dont think Roos could give a toss about your input to be honest. He would choose a team that he believes that will take us to a Flag. I dont think what a single supporter feels will matter. Its a footy club darling, not a friggin soap opera.

[NMWBloods]

Fans should really have no input into football strategy and tactics - this is up to the coach and the football department.

[penga]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Fosdike?

yup

[sprite]

So it is definite that Fosdike is Adelaide bound, I haven't seen anything mentioning him in Melbourne.

[caj23]

No sprite just the usual speculation and innuendo from those on the board that dislike certain players

[midaro]

Would we be happy to give Pick 13 to get a player like Fosdike? Don't think so. So, why would Adelaide do it?

[NMWBloods]

We gave something like pick #6 for him...

[midaro]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
We gave something like pick #6 for him...

Fosdike? Pick 3 1998. He's still a dud.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by midaro
Would we be happy to give Pick 13 to get a player like Fosdike? Don't think so. So, why would Adelaide do it?

Crouch for pick 13??? to replace the man they lost?? Seem logical to me.