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Not sure what you were expecting, but we wanted a ruckman, there only a few floating around, and we got a reasonable player with scope for improvement. The ability to draft a solid player at #15 is somewhat hit and miss, and we needed to address the ruck situation. Not a bad deal overall IMO.
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Stats are often misleading. Remember that Melb like playing White through virtually the entire game meaning not much game time for Jolly and hence stats that aren't inspiring.Originally posted by Captain
Look at his stats for 2004.
Jolly is not the player going to carry our premership ruck hopes.
He is a servicable, second string ruckman. That's it.
We have been shafted badly.
I'm on the Chandwagon!!!
If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.
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Looking at his stats for just 2004 is a bit misleading because of the way Melbourne play. They run Jeff White for over 100 min per game as he works best that way. Doesn't matter who their backup ruckman is, that's their strategy and it works for them.
Consider his 2003 stats when he had more game time:
19 games
24 goals
7 disposals per game
14 hitouts per gameCaptain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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Anyone know what pick Jolly was originally drafted by.Comment
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Beat ya by a minute Nick!Originally posted by NMWBloods
Looking at his stats for just 2004 is a bit misleading because of the way Melbourne play. They run Jeff White for over 100 min per game as he works best that way. Doesn't matter who their backup ruckman is, that's their strategy and it works for them.
Consider his 2003 stats when he had more game time:
19 games
24 goals
7 disposals per game
14 hitouts per game
I'm on the Chandwagon!!!
If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.
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You guys are so one eyed it's a joke.
The guy couldn't get a game at Melbourne! It's not like they are flush with ruck stocks either.
Just because he is a ruckman doesn't make him gold.
If Ball, Doyle and Goodes are fit, I struggle to see how Jolly will get a game.Comment
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1st pick for Jelly is way too much. Unless there are some other trades on the way, I cant see how this is going to improve our team at all.Comment
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I paid the $9.99 and have had no trouble getting in. Last time I was on - a couple of minutes ago - there were well over 450 people in drafts and trading.Originally posted by Foreign Legion
Is anyone else having trouble getting into Bigfooty?
I'm trying to find out news about any other trades but site seems to be down!---------||--ANNE--||----------Comment
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Let's hope we can bookmark this thread and have a laugh when jolly is killing it for us next yr or else........Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.
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Finally some senseOriginally posted by Newbie
1st pick for Jelly is way too much. Unless there are some other trades on the way, I cant see how this is going to improve our team at all.Comment
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He was promoted from the rookie list in 2001. Not sure what pick in the rookie draft.Originally posted by barry
Anyone know what pick Jolly was originally drafted by.Comment
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Yes Captain, but what if any or all of them aren't fit - Ball and Doyle are injury prone and Goodesy was lucky to make it through last year!Originally posted by Captain
You guys are so one eyed it's a joke.
The guy couldn't get a game at Melbourne! It's not like they are flush with ruck stocks either.
Just because he is a ruckman doesn't make him gold.
If Ball, Doyle and Goodes are fit, I struggle to see how Jolly will get a game.
Depth is not a bad thing and Ball only has a year to go. Ericksen looks like he is 2 years away and Goodesy won't play first ruck again supposedly.Comment
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I think it's an ok deal. Not great, but I'm glad we got a decent ruckman all the same.
Maybe Roos is lined up to trade a player for a draft pick... who knows? All I know is that we're supposed to be cutting down our list not adding to it!
I keep thinking that Fosdike won't be at the Swannies next year. You don't often hear a coach say that a player is happy moving back to Adelaide if they aren't going to go there.Comment
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Not one eyed, just calling it as I see it. I watched him a bit in 2003 and 2004 and thought he looked reasonable.Originally posted by Captain
You guys are so one eyed it's a joke.
The guy couldn't get a game at Melbourne! It's not like they are flush with ruck stocks either.
Just because he is a ruckman doesn't make him gold.
If Ball, Doyle and Goodes are fit, I struggle to see how Jolly will get a game.
I suspect Ball will remain our preferred ruckman, because of his ability around the ground, however he will be slowing down to some degree this year so will need more backup. I think Jolly will be a more effective backup than Doyle and I don't imagine Goodes will spend much time in the ruck.Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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I dont think it's being one-eyed at all. We look more at it more harshly as we are all Swannies.
As for "making more sense", well anyone makes more sense than you Captain Fu*kwit.Comment
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