Darren Jolly's attitude

**Matt79** · 11 April 2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
Thanks for the advice.

The original and to a certain extent this post are musings of self obsessed supporters.

Footy players value is 'THE WAY THEY PLAY FOOTBALL'

Not by making wannabes feel good about themselves

Get over yourselves !

Just wondering how my post makes me or implies that I am a "self obsessed supporter"??

When the Swans win I feel good about myself, when they lose I feel down...that's why I support ant follow a team.

Remember last year, when Hird kicked the winning goal in the last minute against West Coast and hugged the supporter on the fence? That has only been positive for football... there is an ad about it, and the image has been played over and over again, demonstrating the vital link between players and supporters.

Why do you follow the swans and football for that matter Mark? Do you get enjoyment from a game or is that being "self obsessed?"

**Mark** · 11 April 2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Matt79
Just wondering how my post makes me or implies that I am a "self obsessed supporter"??

The fact that you backed up a post that equated the quality of the Jolly trade with his hugging some supporters.

I repeat, he will prove to be a good trade if he plays good footy over a good period of time. Not because he approaches wannabes in the crowd and makes them feel important.

Maybe YOU should think before you post ?

**robbieando** · 11 April 2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
This is possibly the worst/most self obsessed post ive ever read on here, and there have been a few !

I take it you DON'T include your own post in making that call.

You missed the point Mike was trying to make and that to me is no surprise.

**Matt79** · 11 April 2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
The fact that you backed up a post that equated the quality of the Jolly trade with his hugging some supporters.

No where in my post did I equate the quality of Jolly's trade with the 'hugging of supporters'.

I suggested that it is good for Jolly, the supporters and the game that players embrace and involve the supporters.

You didn't answer my previous question. Why do you follow footy Mark? DO you 'enjoy' it?

**Mark** · 11 April 2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Matt79
No where in my post did I equate the quality of Jolly's trade with the 'hugging of supporters'.

I suggested that it is good for Jolly, the supporters and the game that players embrace and involve the supporters.

You didn't answer my previous question. Why do you follow footy Mark? DO you 'enjoy' it?

This is quite amusing considering your first piece of advice !

"The fact that you backed up a post that equated the quality of the Jolly trade with his hugging some supporters"

Was what i said not that you made the original call

Maybe read and think before you post, it helps

**Mike_B** · 11 April 2005, 10:19 PM

Maybe if I clarify things a little it might help this go-nowhere argument.

Personally, it makes no difference to me whether the players come over or not - I get no inflated sense of self-importance.

The point I was trying to make was the way Darren Jolly is embracing being in Sydney, embracing being part of the Sydney Football Club. Obviously if he doesn't produce on the field, we have a problem, but my point was that you can see how much he really wants to contribute and that can only be a good thing.

**Matt79** · 11 April 2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
This is quite amusing considering your first piece of advice !

" the quality of the Jolly trade"

Key point Mark, "The quality of the Jolly trade"! Where have I ranked the quality of Jolly's trade based on hugging supporters???

Do you enjoy footy and why? Why do you avoid questions?

**ROK Lobster** · 11 April 2005, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Mike_B
my point was that you can see how much he really wants to contribute and that can only be a good thing.

Either that or he has visited here and is not looking forward to a season of "We gave away a first rd draft pick for an arrogant no-talent hack" threads.

**Matt79** · 11 April 2005, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Mike_B
Maybe if I clarify things a little it might help this go-nowhere argument.

Personally, it makes no difference to me whether the players come over or not - I get no inflated sense of self-importance.

The point I was trying to make was the way Darren Jolly is embracing being in Sydney, embracing being part of the Sydney Football Club. Obviously if he doesn't produce on the field, we have a problem, but my point was that you can see how much he really wants to contribute and that can only be a good thing.

I agree totally Mike. I don't often get involved in back and forth posts, but I feel strongly about defending your comment because I agreed with you and Mark miss interpreted what you said about Jolly "embracing the club".

**sharpie** · 11 April 2005, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Either that or he has visited here and is not looking forward to a season of "We gave away a first rd draft pick for an arrogant no-talent hack" threads.

maybe he is actually our fellow RWO member j0lly and doesnt want to take all that abuse on this forum.

**Schneiderman** · 11 April 2005, 10:25 PM

Happy players are better players. Not than other players, but themselves when they are not happy.

Goodes, Hall, Kirk, Kennelly, etc are all evidence of the fact that hapiness brings better performances.

If we see evidence that Jolly is happier now that he is at Sydney, I have no doubt he will play better than ever before.

**Mark** · 11 April 2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Matt79
Do you enjoy footy and why? Why do you avoid questions?

Its the tight shorts of course, why else !

**ROK Lobster** · 11 April 2005, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Schneiderman
Happy players are better players. Not than other players, but themselves when they are not happy.

Goodes, Hall, Kirk, Kennelly, etc are all evidence of the fact that hapiness brings better performances.

If we see evidence that Jolly is happier now that he is at Sydney, I have no doubt he will play better than ever before.

What a crock of @@@@. Both in terms of hypotheses and method.

**Matt79** · 11 April 2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Mark
Its the tight shorts of course, why else !

Sounds like your self obsessed, having a perv!

End of story!!

**Schneiderman** · 11 April 2005, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
What a crock of @@@@. Both in terms of hypotheses and method.

Proof? I suppose you've seen unhappy players doing well? Name em.

Darren Jolly's attitude

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