swans home games in melb

[Mark]

Re: Re: Re: Re: SYDNEY swans

Originally posted by Wil
Great! Makes me proud

In the past couple of years it seems the AFL and the Swans have given up on Sydney and gone back to getting Melbourne involved. Don't fool yourself into thinking the SMFC was anything but a marketing move.

It sucks that your team was moved from South Melbourne to Sydney and I hope any team I follow doesn't get moved. BUT COME ON, Is it a Sydney team or not? I am probably in the group that if a second team comes to Sydney (provided that it is a new team) I will think about supporting them. I am Sydney through and through and the South Melbourne links to the Swans are off-putting at best (but can be ignored). I would prefer all ties from SMFC to be severed and a real Sydney club created from the ashes (Sydney Phoenix? ). Hopefully one day...

"light touch paper and retreat immediately"

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Wil
Thats the exact condescending attitude we can do without.

Sure - no Sydney Swans but probably a Sydney -insert name here- instead. Which, thanks to priority picks and without the hopeless *cough* tradition *cough* we inherited, would of won the premiership by now! But this is a very old topic... though I believe the SMFC links does not help the growth of the Swans in Sydney.

Like it or not given the circumstances of the Swans and the move to Sydney their will always be the link between the two clubs (and rightly so imho)
It is all hypothetical to say we would have won a premiership by now, but given the complete lack of infrastructure at a grassroots level I would find that very hard to believe

[Cher]

From a personal point of view I'd like Des's suggestion of 8 games at the MCG (or more!)

From a practical point of view, we really do need to get more practice at the 'G'

[Benevolent Ert]

Re: SYDNEY swans

Originally posted by Reddie
The swans are Sydney team, that has a history in Melbourne. We should continue to support those fans south of ther border with as many away games in Melbourne as we can convince the AFL to give us, but we shoudl NOT give away home games.

As one of those "south of the border" fans, I find I agree with every word

[hammo]

Ridiculous to even suggest moving Swans home games to Melbourne.

5 or 6 away games in Melbourne should be more than adequate.

Having AFL in Sydney less than once a fortnight would be a major blow to building a fan base.

[cruiser]

I disagree with you Wil about SMFC. It is a very important part of the Sydney Swans' history and is rightfully acknowleged on the players' guernseys. Its also great for the Swans to still have so many Melbourne based supporters and great for us Sydney based supporters when we go down to Melbourne to watch a Swans game surrounded by so much red and white. I'm looking forward to that again this Saturday at Telstra Dome.

[bloodboy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: SYDNEY swans

Originally posted by Wil
Great! Makes me proud

In the past couple of years it seems the AFL and the Swans have given up on Sydney and gone back to getting Melbourne involved. Don't fool yourself into thinking the SMFC was anything but a marketing move.

It sucks that your team was moved from South Melbourne to Sydney and I hope any team I follow doesn't get moved. BUT COME ON, Is it a Sydney team or not? I am probably in the group that if a second team comes to Sydney (provided that it is a new team) I will think about supporting them. I am Sydney through and through and the South Melbourne links to the Swans are off-putting at best (but can be ignored). I would prefer all ties from SMFC to be severed and a real Sydney club created from the ashes (Sydney Phoenix? ). Hopefully one day...

I hope you get your team matey, I really do. At the moment, my sincere thanks to all those helping the team going forward, but also remembering our rich and proud past. I, for one, am a Melbourne boy through and through but I am willing to support this great team that has been my families tradition since day one. I am not going to stop supporting this team for any reason... Oh, yeah, and until you get your team Wil, don't forget to keep your memberships up to date with the mighty Bloodstainers! Cheers mate.

[Tooth Fairy]

Re: swans home games in melb

Originally posted by prenda
just thinking this morning

have the swans thought about relocating a swans home game to the mcg or telstra dome.it would be great for the loyal melbourne swans fans plus to give them another live chance to watch the swans play.

thoughts any one

Nah just give the dogs game back to Melbourne and give the swans melbourne members 6 games in Melbourne each year and all will be happy (except ignoramuses like Wil who are so Sydneycentric that they should just stick to watching League). The equation is that simple really.

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
No you are being pessimistic. I can see it now, First home game in 2015, at the MCG, Club Captain, 250 gamer, 4 times AA, 3 times Club Champion, Brownlow Medalist LRT unfurls the 4th flag in the last 6 years infront of 42,000 paid up Melbourne based members.

Perish the thought of having a Sydney born, ex-rugby, person being our club's captain and unfurling our Flag!

[Tooth Fairy]

Re: SYDNEY swans

Originally posted by Reddie
I can't believe this post. The swans are Sydney team, that has a history in Melbourne. We should continue to support those fans south of ther border with as many away games in Melbourne as we can convince the AFL to give us, but we shoudl NOT give away home games.

I must say this raises for me the issue of the future direction of this club. Frankly our administrators don't really offer much of a public vision for the direction of the club. They may do so behind closed doors but as a ten year swans members I get no real sense of were Colless and our board want the club to go.

While I loved watching Paul Kelly, play and think it is great he is on the board, I really do question the SYDNEY Swans electing two people NOT from Sydney to the only democratic board spots. Kel should have been appointed.

Says to me the club still doesn't have real sydney roots and is instead a melbourne club palying in the sydney market.

I wish this was not the case but after ten years as a member I can't but help think it is time for some home grown leadership around our club.

I think you are wrong. I think Paul Kelly should not have got on (just my opinion looking at it from your take above). But that's who the Members voted for as with the other candidate who you deem unworthy for whatever reasons. Or were your reasons given in the above? If they were indeed your reasons.... poppycock and twaddle!

edit: oh, but I do agree with your last sentence wholeheartedly

[Tooth Fairy]

Re: Re: SYDNEY swans

Originally posted by Wil
I tend to agree with this. It is bad enough that SMFC is on the back of the Guernsey. But it will be a while yet until AFL actually becomes 'Australian' (if it ever does). The problem is the AFL powerbrokers are happy to keep the game in Melbourne, and with the support and crowd figures they get there, I wouldn't blame them.

It is Australian. Take your head out of the crevice you have it stuck in.




















The sydney crevice that is

and instead of complaining that the AFL is still the VFL, look in your own frigging backyard and ask why isn't our state getting into the greatest game of all which is AFL. Your state is a two code (arguably more) state, DEAL WITH IT!

[Tooth Fairy]

Re: Re: SYDNEY swans

Originally posted by Wil
The problem is the AFL powerbrokers are happy to keep the game in Melbourne, and with the support and crowd figures they get there, I wouldn't blame them.

That is absolute crap considering they are seriously looking at the Gold Coast market

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by Wil
Thats the exact condescending attitude we can do without.

Sure - no Sydney Swans but probably a Sydney -insert name here- instead. Which, thanks to priority picks and without the hopeless *cough* tradition *cough* we inherited, would of won the premiership by now! But this is a very old topic... though I believe the SMFC links does not help the growth of the Swans in Sydney.

But it's true and probably extends to "no AFL, just VFL, SAFL, WAFL, and best yet... Good old State of Origin Matches!!!!" ceteris parabus

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Wil
Thats the exact condescending attitude we can do without.

Sure - no Sydney Swans but probably a Sydney -insert name here- instead. Which, thanks to priority picks and without the hopeless *cough* tradition *cough* we inherited, would of won the premiership by now! But this is a very old topic... though I believe the SMFC links does not help the growth of the Swans in Sydney.

Right - so drop the SMFC link and the Sydney Swans are now truly the most pathetic team in the competition - one of only two teams without a flag after two decades of trying...

The main reason why we should try for more Melbourne games is to play more games at the MCG. We've played only 12 games there in the past 4 seasons for a 50-50 record.

[cruiser]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
The main reason why we should try for more Melbourne games is to play more games at the MCG. We've played only 12 games there in the past 4 seasons for a 50-50 record.

That's not a good reason to take Swans home games away from Sydney. Instead, why not negotiate to play less games at Telstra Dome and more at the MCG?