Great game LRT

[barry]

Originally posted by Sean
Quite ironic that you would say that in a LRT thread.

Seriously though, the opposite is far more often the case. There is one person on RWO who over-rates LRT and probably 10 or more who think he's a dud. In this discussion that has come about following your development comments, where are the "rose coloured glasses"?

Nice try at re-writing history. But the majority (although slim) beleive LRT is our best option at CHB, and will improve the more games he has there.

Generally, the more "emotoinally immature" tend to write-off young players like LRT as duds too early.

[Sean]

Originally posted by barry
Nice try at re-writing history. But the majority (although slim) beleive LRT is our best option at CHB, and will improve the more games he has there.

Give me a break. I said one over rates him and "probably" 10 or more think he is a dud. That's about 11 people. Obviously from that you could assume that the majority rate him where he deserves.

So, which part of what I said was "re-writing history"?

Generally, the more "emotoinally immature" tend to write-off young players like LRT as duds too early.

So you agree with what I said. Good.

[Mike_B]

Re: Re: Great game LRT

Originally posted by ScottH
Here you go Beano, this will help with players, although some nicknames are used here. Just ask if your stuck.

Players Profiles.

More Players Info

And don't forget the player profiles here on RWO (although it seems we never got to the forwards) - http://redandwhiteonline.com/content...cial%20Feature

[ScottH]

Originally posted by barry
Nice try at re-writing history. But the majority (although slim) beleive LRT is our best option at CHB, and will improve the more games he has there.

Generally, the more "emotoinally immature" tend to write-off young players like LRT as duds too early.

So now, you think you are Freud!! Analysing ppl!!!

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Sean
You didn't answer my Brisbane question earlier but perhaps a better question would be which teams are better at developing players than us? Personally I'd say Geelong & West Coast probably are - take out the reserves problems and I wouldn't have them too far in front.

Hard to make a blanket statement, as it does vary. I think the Bulldogs youngsters are coming along alright in the skill department.

For years Essendon's were very good, although that seems to have come undone now.

As well as Geelong and West Coast and Adelaide and possibly Brisbane.

Tthe main things I was considering was poise, skill by foot and hand, decision making, and time. Individually I see this with other youngsters more so than ours.

[Sean]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Hard to make a blanket statement, as it does vary. I think the Bulldogs youngsters are coming along alright in the skill department.

I'd almost say the opposite in relation to the Bulldogs but I understand your point. They have had top draft picks for a number of years now and they are still a little disappointing. Their skills like good when things are going their way but with the pressure on they don't look great.

For years Essendon's were very good, although that seems to have come undone now.

Them, Collingwood & Carlton would be well below us in terms of developing players I would have thought - although Carlton's problems are a bit more complex.

As well as Geelong and West Coast and Adelaide and possibly Brisbane.

We'll see with the Crows. The only thing that would stop me suggesting them is that the same players were poor last year and they are a bit like Brisbane in that IMHO they rely a lot on their best players. Don't agree with Brisbane in the last few years but they obviously did well before that.

Tthe main things I was considering was poise, skill by foot and hand, decision making, and time. Individually I see this with other youngsters more so than ours.

I basically agree in terms of decision making as I said earlier in the thread. This then affects every other part of the game. For example, someone mentioned in another thread that LRT can actually kick the ball but as soon as he plays a senior game, his skills go out the window.

In the past our development has been below other sides - which is kind of obvious. However, for the last 10 years I'd say we have been about "mid table". In the last few years I'd have us higher considering how well we are doing with a huge (IMO) reserves problem.

[sharpie]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Fine - put positives in the positive thread, whether real or imagined. It has nothing to do with grass being greener - it has to do with my observations of certain players.

And which of my observations are particularly negative?

Sometimes the view of young players here is through rose-coloured glasses.

I recall a few people raved about Ablett's game in the final against Port in 2003...

Sorry about the late response, as the discussion has clearly moved on, but I think Sean has just about covered it.

Developing players and drafting players are 2 separate things. It is hard to say whether West Coast, St Kilda, Bulldogs or Geelong are particularly good at developing players. In the last 5 years, they have each spent time at the bottom of the ladder to receive top draft picks.

In the case of the Bulldogs, you could argue that they in fact have been poor at developing players, given the number of high draft picks they've had and the time it has taken for the benefits to show. And while they had a good start to thism season, it looks like they've regressed back to last year's form. So possibly they have not really developed at all.

Developing players is quite intanglible, sdo it cannot be measured easily. You say Adelaide is good at developing players, but 12 months ago you would not have said that. It is difficult to know whether their good form this year is due to the success of developing young players or a honeymoon period for Neil Craig.

I suppose it is only possible to measure our players' development with that of other clubs who have had somewhat similar draft picks in recent time. And I believe probably the only team comparable is the Kangaroos, and it looks currently like we are on par with them, based on results this year and last.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by barry
Generally, the more "emotoinally immature" tend to write-off young players like LRT as duds too early.

You need to read up.