Round 18 Negatives

[sharpie]

Let the heads roll!

Ben Mathews. Sydney Swans captain? What a joke.

Goal kicking was woeful, I just hope it is not a return to the yips from the start of the season.

[Snowy]

As I said in another thread, still the delivery into the forward line at times and the skill level from certain players when the pressure goes on. While Hall will probably be criticised for a goalless night, the fact is he was on a close checking opponent in difficult conditions in a negating sort of game and every kick that went to him gave his opponent a chance to spoil. The problem with someone like Matthews is that he often turns it over under no pressure and when he's in space. Perhaps someone else should be developed as an outside player who can hit targets. Schneider's inability to come up again has to be rated as disappointing. Also would be good to see Dempster get more of the ball for the game time he plays.

[NMWBloods]

Forward structure.

Goal kicking.

Disposal under pressure.

[stellation]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Forward structure.

That's been a problem all year. It looks to be a coaching problem.

[sharpie]

Originally posted by stellation
That's been a problem all year. It looks to be a coaching problem.

A lot of it has to do with the need/desire to get Nick Davis further upfield. In 2003 he rarely left the F50. Schneider's loss of form is the other reason we are less effective up forward, compared to 2003.

[Vivien]

We were decent coming out of defence, but it always seemed to break down around the half-forward line. Delivery into F50 was woeful. And I know there were others who underperformed, but I can't remember Matthews having an effective possession all night. His kicking was shocking.

Could've won, should've won. Letting them into the game early in the 2nd half and our own goal-kicking inaccuracy was the difference.

[Mike_B]

Originally posted by Vivien
I can't remember Matthews having an effective possession all night. His kicking was shocking.

He kicked a goal - so that would be one. Might be pushing to find a 2nd though.

[Vivien]

Originally posted by Mike_B
He kicked a goal - so that would be one. Might be pushing to find a 2nd though.

OK, yes. Besides that one!

[stellation]

Originally posted by sharpie
A lot of it has to do with the need/desire to get Nick Davis further upfield. In 2003 he rarely left the F50. Schneider's loss of form is the other reason we are less effective up forward, compared to 2003.

Nick staying in the F50 in 2003 was more because of a limited pre-season. We do look a better side with him picking up 10-15 disposals around the ground and just the handful in the F50; the problem comes from the coaching staff not seeming to twig that maybe they should put another player in the F50 to take his place.

I would like to see either Vogels or a resting ruckman + Mickey + a small forward (Schneider or a resting midfielder) hovering around the F50 more.

[barry]

Originally posted by Snowy
As I said in another thread, still the delivery into the forward line at times and the skill level from certain players when the pressure goes on.

I think that it looks worse than it is because certain poor disposal players are the ones in form (as far as getting the ball goes)
eg. Matthews, Buchanan

Whereas our good disposal players are down on form. eg Davis, Williams.

[sharpie]

Originally posted by barry
I think that it looks worse than it is because certain poor disposal players are the ones in form (as far as getting the ball goes)
eg. Matthews, Buchanan

Whereas our good disposal players are down on form. eg Davis, Williams.

Buchanan's delivery into the F50 is generally pretty good. It's just his set shots that are aweful. Its obviously a mental thing that he's got to overcome.

[Snowy]

I think Willo needs to get a lot more of the ball for the team to be at its maximum as his disposal is not what it used to be. I'm not sure that Davis is actually out of form (though 20+ possessions wouldn't go astray), as I think he and Goodes were the only ones whose disposal you could rely on. Goodes barely made a mistake and I think ND only had one turnover and his kicking to position was very good. ROK's clanger rate is up, as is Buchanan, Matthews of course, Schneider had two clangers out of four touches, Crouch doesn't really hurt with his. Kennelly's couple of late pings were costly but then again kicking depth is usually affected late in the match so were understandable.

[Provost]

I don't know how much the wet dew had an effect on the ball but we couldn't mark a beach ball during that game. Ball handling was a big negative

ROK was a negative

Getting inside the F50 was a negative but then once there failing to capatilise was a double negative (I know that's bad grammatically speaking)

The pressure applied to BBBH's brain by the headband/tape combo was a negative on his game.

Watching Goodes in flying form screaming down the ground in the dying minutes of the game with the chance of stealing it back only to have it torn away from us left me feeling very negative (A coaster got flung across the floor of the Aussie Rules club at one stage0

It was what it was, a really tough hard fought game and with finals footy coming up its only going to get harder.
Carn Swannies

[ScottH]

We Lost!!!

And LRT had a good game!!!!

[Vivien]

Originally posted by ScottH
We Lost!!!

And LRT had a good game!!!!

That's a negative?