Is Paul Roos a liar?

[ROK Lobster]

After the match Roos said he did not know who kicked the winning goal. In fact, he seemed loathe to praise Nick D at all. I commented at the time and Roos was defended. I have said all along that Roos talks down his team because of his over-inflated opinion of himself and his reluctance to give a player credit when he thinks he can claim it for himself. Well, according to what the papers say

Daily Telegraph: Sydney coach Paul Roos has revealed the miraculous goal kicked by Nick Davis against Geelong was a set play the Swans have been practising for several years.

Well Paul, if it is a set play you have been working on for years, how come you didn't know who kicked it. You either knew it and could not bring yourself to say "Nick had a blinder" or you have had to bring this up to put yourself at the top of the heap. Liar or just overly arrogant?

[Mike_B]

The question is: Does the set play always involve Nick Davis roving the tap?

If yes, then you could make the claim that Roosy lied. If no, then it's a perfectly legitimate comment that he made.

[barry]

Maybe a little white lie, but who really cares. Davis, as always, did some unaccountable things in that game that would pull a coaches hair out.

But there is increasingly a perception that Roos plays favourites a bit, as evidenced by:
- The continued selection of severly out of form senior players earlier in the year.
- Matthews as a captain!
- No selection of Schuable dispite BOG in 2's week in week out.
- And now the Davis snub.

I'm working these conspiracy theories to death at the moment!

[DST]

Are you for real ROK Lobster or are you just having a lend of us.

Cut the man some slack, I knew who kicked the goal but when I got a phone call from parents seconds after the siren I could hardly put a sentence together as my head was spinning with emotion.

Who's to say that this was a set play but the designated kicker would be the person in the best position. From the vision it certainly looked like Scheinder lined up on the correct side to have a go, but he laid the block for Davis. Could have easily been the other way around.

DST

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by DST
Cut the man some slack, I knew who kicked the goal but when I got a phone call from parents seconds after the siren I could hardly put a sentence together as my head was spinning with emotion.

Glad you're not the coach then

Originally posted by DST
Who's to say that this was a set play but the designated kicker would be the person in the best position. From the vision it certainly looked like Scheinder lined up on the correct side to have a go, but he laid the block for Davis. Could have easily been the other way around.

No it couldn't because it didn't go OOBOTF

[Ruda Wakening]

Originally posted by DST
From the vision it certainly looked like Scheinder lined up on the correct side to have a go, but he laid the block for Davis. Could have easily been the other way around.

Not quite as easily.

[cruiser]

Re: Is Paul Roos a liar?

C'mon ROK, fair go, are you serious with this question?

[ROK Lobster]

Re: Re: Is Paul Roos a liar?

Originally posted by cruiser
C'mon ROK, fair go, are you serious with this question?

Absolutely. I wouldn't go as far as to spit on him but I have no time for the arrogant sod.

[warlock]

Roo Bashing?

Hi guys,
New here however have been an avid follower of the swans since South Melbourne to the Swans of today. was present at our last grand final appearance however alas i wont be able to go to this one if we get there. The question i want to pose is:
Why are you Roo bashing?
If the guy didnt know who kicked it, he didnt know.
He has come out and said that ND had a blinder in later articles that have been released. so whats the prob?
The guy understates so that people dont think him or the team are egotistical meglomaniacs, which is how i believe it should be played. How much would Roos and Sydney be ridiculed if all they did was boast about themselves. Ever since Rocket took over we have always played low key, never talked up our chances and that is a good thing. Cut Roos a break. If the guys are prepared to play for him and put everything on the line for him as a coach should we not respect that? They know, they are the ones who play for him and each other. Ill never forget the scene when sydney won the game and dedicated it to him when all the uncertaincy was going on prior to him being appointed coach. i have just finished watching the highlight tapes of the 1996 season and we are as good, if not better than then. Cut the man some slack. Roos and our Sydney Swans will bring home a flag. Mark my words!

[DST]

Originally posted by barry
But there is increasingly a perception that Roos plays favourites a bit, as evidenced by:

- The continued selection of severly out of form senior players earlier in the year.
- Matthews as a captain!
- No selection of Schuable dispite BOG in 2's week in week out.
- And now the Davis snub.

I'm working these conspiracy theories to death at the moment!

That's have a look at some of those assertions:

1) No matter how bad senior players form is, a bunch of green underdone juniors are not going to magically win a game of football for you. Roos showed faith in the senior players and we are playing a PF this week so the senior players have repaid that faith in spades

2) The leadership group is elected by the players not the coaching staff. As soon as they decided to rotate the captaincy you are not going to exclude some of those blokes form being allowed to show what they can do. A decesion like that would show a distinct lack of respect to the team who elected that person to the leadership group in the first place.

3) Why can't people just face the facts with Schuable. He was not overly quick in the first place and constant injuries to his lower legs has meant he has by all accounts lost further pace despite playing well in the reserves. Schuable needs a full pre season with no injuries to work on getting back the strength and trust to go full out with his legs before returning to the AFL again (which incidently I think he can all going well pre season)

4) What snub, Roos has praised Davis for his work end of story

DST

[Frog]

Re: Is Paul Roos a liar?

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
After the match Roos said he did not know who kicked the winning goal. In fact, he seemed loathe to praise Nick D at all. I commented at the time and Roos was defended. I have said all along that Roos talks down his team because of his over-inflated opinion of himself and his reluctance to give a player credit when he thinks he can claim it for himself.

Over inflated opinion ?
Favourites ?

2003 - Preliminary Final
2004 - Semi-Final
2005 - Preliminary Final

I don't care if he has an over-inflated opinion, and for now, I'm happy to go with his favourites.

Nick Davis is a big boy. One man's opinion of him is not going to let him forget there are plenty more that have a much better opinion of him.

This is not about individuals, this is about TEAM. Nick Davis would not have kicked THAT goal if Ball hadn't instigated the set play and cleared space. Bazza took Scarlett away from the contest, Schneider was ready to block. Davis, whilst fantastic and I will sing his praises, never controlled the ball and dropped it on his boot. The rest, as they say, is history. That was not singularly Davis, that was a TEAM effort. As a coach, there is no need to single him out (in public). What do you know he did behind closed doors ?

[swans_premiers]

STOP RIGHT THERE...

Paul roos said after the match he didn't know HOW he kicked the goal not WHO kicked it.

[cruiser]

I was at the game last Friday night and at the time I had no idea that Davis had kicked all four last quarter goals, neither did any of the other three people I was with. It is much easier to follow what is happening on TV with the assistance of commentators. ROK saw it on TV, Roos watched it live. Draw your own conclusion.

I am surprised that ROK is being so critical of Roos without giving sufficient justification (challenge to ROK - justify your criticism that Roos is arrogant).

[DST]

Originally posted by swans_premiers
STOP RIGHT THERE...

Paul roos said after the match he didn't know HOW he kicked the goal not WHO kicked it.

Well there you go, I was so incoherent after the game I didn't pick up on the language used.

Maybe ROK Lobster might want to make a formal apology?

DST

[BayesysLeftBoot]

Originally posted by swans_premiers
STOP RIGHT THERE...

Paul roos said after the match he didn't know HOW he kicked the goal not WHO kicked it.

hmmm..... I'm going to the tape on this one.