Barrygate

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Dave
The annoying thing is that this could drag out to Thursday a la Dunkley in '96.

And we all know how that ended up.

[SwallowdaFonz]

Originally posted by boroboy
More info;

Who's on the Tribunal?

Brian Collis QC (Chairperson); Shane Maguire (Deputy Chairperson); Elaine Canty; David Shibury; Brian LeBrocq; Emmet Dunne; and Michael Green.

That sounds like the old Tribunal to me. The 2005 model has ex-players on it, like Barry Stoneham.

[Snowy]

If Hall doesn't play West Coast have been handed the flag on a platter, just like the umps handed them the qualifying final.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Snowy
If Hall doesn't play West Coast have been handed the flag on a platter, just like the umps handed them the qualifying final.

I don't accept that.

[barry]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I don't accept that.

Lets be realistic. Its not that we cant cover Hall, its just that our whole forward line dynamic and game plan has to be changed 5 days out from a grand final.
Thats why we're stuffed.

[iigrover]

If google is any guide, it looks like Barry is in with a fighting chance...

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Barry+Hall&word2=AFL+Tribunal

[Diego]

Originally posted by barry
Lets be realistic. Its not that we cant cover Hall, its just that our whole forward line dynamic and game plan has to be changed 5 days out from a grand final.
Thats why we're stuffed.

I agree and hence why I am feeling so horrible and not really enjoying it.

When was the last time we played without Barry Hall?

And the times Barry has been shut down the team goes all disfunctional.

We need Nick davis to kick 10 goals on Saturday.

[BayesysLeftBoot]

Originally posted by barry
Lets be realistic. Its not that we cant cover Hall, its just that our whole forward line dynamic and game plan has to be changed 5 days out from a grand final.
Thats why we're stuffed.

Don't underestimate the mighty bloods my friend.

[BayesysLeftBoot]

Originally posted by iigrover
If google is any guide, it looks like Barry is in with a fighting chance...
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php...2=AFL+Tribunal

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Sydney+Swans&word2=West+Coast+Eagles

[giant]

Originally posted by barry
Lets be realistic. Its not that we cant cover Hall, its just that our whole forward line dynamic and game plan has to be changed 5 days out from a grand final.
Thats why we're stuffed.

That's bollocks. If we were that dependent on one player we wouldn't deserve to be there this Saturday.

I don't believe it and I don't think the players will believe it.

A few weeks back we were having a discussion about the one player we'd hate to miss & I think the conclusion was we'd miss Leo more than Hall. I still think that's the case - I'd prefer to be doing it with him (not least coz he deserves to be there) but still feel rather confident without him.

[boroboy]

Originally posted by SwallowdaFonz
That sounds like the old Tribunal to me. The 2005 model has ex-players on it, like Barry Stoneham.

You're exactly right - shows why investigative journalism isn't my forte...

Here's the link that explains all the updates for 2005,

http://afl.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/183729ap.pdf

[Sean]

Originally posted by barry
Lets be realistic. Its not that we cant cover Hall, its just that our whole forward line dynamic and game plan has to be changed 5 days out from a grand final.
Thats why we're stuffed.

The job would definitely be harder but I'm still mildly confident. The Eagles are a completely different team in Melbourne - despite our much talked about MCG finals record, we generally do pretty well down there.

We would still have a forward line that most sides would struggle against if they all play well. If we have Friday's O'Keefe, the previous week's Davis, Schneider from the 4th quarter against the Saints and so on then I don't think that the Eagles can handle us. Basically, we just need everyone to really perform.

[giant]

Originally posted by boroboy
You're exactly right - shows why investigative journalism isn't my forte...

Here's the link that explains all the updates for 2005,

http://afl.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/183729ap.pdf

Thank goodness for that - didn't like the look of that chap Maguire on the old panel!

[monopoly19]

Just an update on some of boroboy's info (think you may have had old info):

Chairman of tribunal: retired County Court judge David Jones
Deputy Chairman: " " John Hassett

Tribunal Jury: Michael Sexton, Richard Loveridge, Emmett Dunne, Wayne Schimmelbusch, Stuart Loewe, Barry Stoneham

Counsel for Tribunal: Wil Houghton, QC
Assistant: Andrew Tinney

The Chairman manages process and decides on points of law

The jury decides guilt/innocence and applies penalty as per table of offences and sanctions

Tribunal Chairman can allow victims to attend, but they are not obligated

Players can have legal representation

Edited to say that boroboy came back too fast

[Snowy]

The point is Hall is a presence, he creates goals and he allows the other forwards to take the 2nd, 3rd or 4th defender. With an average midfield compared with theirs and a suspect backline, height wise, they'll be laughing all the way to the bank. Even neutral supporters who want the Swans to win are now saying the game is not worth watching.