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  • Balmain Boy
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2011
    • 22

    Not even if you felt it was your only option?

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    • mountainsofpain
      Warming the Bench
      • Apr 2008
      • 266

      Originally posted by Balmain Boy
      Not even if you felt it was your only option?
      No. You have got to draw the line somewhere.

      But that's just my opinion.

      As I have tried to point out, to little avail it would seem, I actually agree with the cause. I know enough about Balmain to think that the club needs to be rescued (for want of a better word).

      I just don't agree with the method.

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      • Balmain Boy
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2011
        • 22

        Everyone in Australian has the right to protest, as long as it is peacefully done.

        If the same happened to me and I was an opposition player then I would accept it and applaud the players for taking that stand. Where I would draw the line is
        violence.

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        • mountainsofpain
          Warming the Bench
          • Apr 2008
          • 266

          Originally posted by Balmain Boy
          Everyone in Australian has the right to protest, as long as it is peacefully done.
          Let's just hope the Sydney AFL shares that sentiment.

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          • MrTaxman
            On the Rookie List
            • Aug 2013
            • 40

            For what it is worth, I have thought that very few of the hard-hitting questions put on this thread have been answered but that is immaterial.

            So a week has passed ... apart from be on this forum (and Facebook) all week ... what else have the dissidents done this week? It was mentioned that they were having a meeting with the league on Thursday ... what was the result there? There have been a few training sessions & no doubt endless discussions as well ... are the 11 players still 100% in favour of their actions? I understand that there is an AFL employee amongst that "Balmain 11" ... how is he feeling with respect to his employment obligations & does he expect any further ramifications for the role that he played? What has been the result this week of discussions with current management? (I assume that you would have at least made some form of contact to start the mediation process). Are there any actions planned this week at the match against St George? Finally, or in summary, where to from here?

            PS I had the man flu this week & got sick just thinking about doing work ... so I just want to say thank you for the entertainment!

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            • tellitlikeitis
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2011
              • 28

              Originally posted by MrTaxman
              For what it is worth, I have thought that very few of the hard-hitting questions put on this thread have been answered but that is immaterial.

              So a week has passed ... apart from be on this forum (and Facebook) all week ... what else have the dissidents done this week? It was mentioned that they were having a meeting with the league on Thursday ... what was the result there? There have been a few training sessions & no doubt endless discussions as well ... are the 11 players still 100% in favour of their actions? I understand that there is an AFL employee amongst that "Balmain 11" ... how is he feeling with respect to his employment obligations & does he expect any further ramifications for the role that he played? What has been the result this week of discussions with current management? (I assume that you would have at least made some form of contact to start the mediation process). Are there any actions planned this week at the match against St George? Finally, or in summary, where to from here?

              PS I had the man flu this week & got sick just thinking about doing work ... so I just want to say thank you for the entertainment!
              Well it seems to me Mr Taxman (if that is your real name) that you are one of the board members?

              If so could we have your side of the story as I am loathed to believe anything until I've heard both sides.

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              • tara
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2005
                • 1514

                Originally posted by tellitlikeitis
                Well it seems to me Mr Taxman (if that is your real name) that you are one of the board members?

                If so could we have your side of the story as I am loathed to believe anything until I've heard both sides.
                Mr taxman has nothing to do with the current board of Balmain and if pretty well known around Sydney AFL - Pretty sure that almost everyone that is posting here from Balmain know who he is by now. Any Mr Taxman is his real name - try doing some research - he is providing some good advise here free of charge i thought

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                • Ancient Tiger
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 61

                  He is not one of the board members. They actually voted against putting him in as treasurer (mistake - you had at least 1 vote).

                  But I think their process has been stepped out and was at the desperate stage.

                  I think the hardest hitting question that was not answered was asked by Tiges.

                  He asked for a 1 word answer to a simple question and from memory nobody could do that! Just one word, seems to be the hardest hitting question of them all.

                  So I will ask it again. If all avenues had been followed and failed, and you were about to lose your club. Would you do anything you could to save it?

                  Remember 1 word only , YES or NO

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                  • Balmain Boy
                    On the Rookie List
                    • May 2011
                    • 22

                    Yes

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                    • zik
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 13

                      The 11 players are still holding together strong and very much behind the cause. As are the rest of the playing group. Despite our results this season we are a tight group. As for the AFL employee, I'll let him answer that question.

                      The news I've heard is that the NSW/ACT AFL will be administering the AGM this year and have asked for a list of current paid members. I see this as a massive win for the club.

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                      • MrTaxman
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 40

                        Originally posted by tellitlikeitis
                        Well it seems to me Mr Taxman (if that is your real name) that you are one of the board members?
                        Oh dear!

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                        Originally posted by zik
                        The news I've heard is that the NSW/ACT AFL will be administering the AGM this year and have asked for a list of current paid members. I see this as a massive win for the club.
                        That is the best news of the week then if true. Tiges/Ancient Tiger - you must be happy with this outcome?

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                        Originally posted by Ancient Tiger
                        They actually voted against putting him in as treasurer (mistake - you had at least 1 vote).
                        Now now Ancient ... I don't believe that I was ever put up to be treasurer of the club ... although for the record for everyone else on the forum, I was asked to help with short-term financing about 3 years ago but was unable to assist as it was at the tail-end of the GFC.

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                        • Ancient Tiger
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 61

                          I was under the impression you had expressed an interest. It was discussed and voted against, so I am not sure who or how that process started then. But you had my vote in any case.

                          And yes pretty happy with the result from the AFL, just not with the pre suspensions.

                          With regards to the question there have been a lot of detailed opinions, but no one really put their hand up for a one word answer. Not in the NO category anyway!

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                          • MrTaxman
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 40

                            Originally posted by Ancient Tiger
                            I was under the impression you had expressed an interest. It was discussed and voted against, so I am not sure who or how that process started then. But you had my vote in any case. And yes pretty happy with the result from the AFL, just not with the pre suspensions.
                            Nice to get votes when you don't formally put your hand up! Perhaps Big Show put my hand up & was going to ask me afterwards? I might be a chance for presidency at the next AGM?? I suggest that the pre-suspensions probably are correlated with not staying within the guidelines set in communications the previous Friday. If the league had said "sure yes ... go for it ... I will wear a BD jumper & walk-off with you in protest" then there wouldn't have been any sanctions this week ... but it was clear, reading between the lines, that you were appropriately warned to not go over the top & I guess a whip had to be cracked by head office to assert its authority otherwise a dangerous precedent would have been set around the state & country. I know that if I was in Matt's position I probably would have come down stronger on the dissidents this week & even issue an notice to show cause why the club should remain affiliated with AFL Sydney let alone stay in Premier League (that is not to say that the current management are necessarily correct but proper processes need to be followed & adhered to). As I said in one of my first posts, it is the busiest time of the year for Matt with something like 90-100 hours per week in preparation for finals/Phelan medal night etc & his offsider Kirsty is probably on maternity leave right now as well (or very close to it) ... so don't expect him to be grateful for the additional workload/stress this week.

                            PS Dockers to win by 25 against St George now (as all the boys were clearly at home instead of the pub on a Friday night!)

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                            • Ancient Tiger
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 61

                              One thing is for certain, these boys inspired 5 club presidents, multiple life members and many previous players to join and coordinate an approach alongside today's group to fight for the club.

                              These are the people who built the club into a successful business and culture, and people have been disillusioned and lost to the game because of this board, and now they are back and hungry to help the new generation.

                              This one act has brought at least 30 people back to the game to help create positive change. Believe me there is a lot going on behind the scenes, and not 1 person from the past has come out to support the administration. The heart of the club is back and we will fight!

                              I truly understand that people from the outside may not agree with the course of action, but they don't really know how big the problem is, nor the allegations that have been made, which we of course cannot comment on in this forum.

                              This one act has inspired the Balmain faithful to get on board and not give up! Sound like the Balmain of old?

                              Which Balmain do you prefer?

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                              • Coastal Boy
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 516

                                Why wasn't the $4.4M asset better protected from possible misappropriation by a better club constitution?

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