Balmain Players Walk Out of Match v Wests - Match Abandoned

[mountainsofpain]

As far as I can see your questions have been answered by various sources. You just seem to want to draw it out for some reason and not take note of the answer. The player involved has said legal advice has been discussed. Do you know what that advice would be for a lawyer? How about this, call for an EGM under the constitution. Pretty simple and actually done by the group. So now that has been confirmed, are you satisfied that all avenues have been taken? Or is there something else now?

Well, I still haven't seen an answer to my Dept of Fair Trading question.

But never mind, I don't expect straight answers any more, deflections/avoidance are more the norm.

I'm only interested because I think the walk off was a poor move. And when I said so, I was told it was a last resort and that all avenues had been exhausted.

Well, I don't believe that. At all. Clearly all avenues weren't exhausted.

And from discussions this morning, even the walk off itself was not organized and planned anywhere near as well as it could have been.

Of course when I explained that, I got the usual response completely ignoring my points and going into the obligatory courageous/emotional routine....

But, that aside -

Some here are so invested in the cause that they seem desperate for validation and expect others to blindly follow suit.

(FWIW, I actually happen to believe their cause is justified, I just don't agree with the tactics (ie the walk off) and I believe it didn't have to come to this.)

In my case, because I have no personal interest in Balmain, I can be more dispassionate, and objective, than those whose opinions are clouded by the emotion of it all.

Which means I am happy to ask questions which I think are relevant, even if they seem to go against the grain.

Despite the emotion of all this, you still need that aspect to the discussion.

[brettcarle]

MOP - you can ask questions sure, but you cannot seem to see that your questions have been answered clearly and with considerable detail, I think the whole forum would agree.

[OnLooker]

...or just sitting back blowing your own trumpet about what you think is literary genius.

Regards,
Rake

...and just to satisfy the hunger for answers that you crave Mountains, the Department of Fair Trading concerns itself with Consumer Law, this would not classify as a consumer matter.

[Ancient Tiger]

Do you really think the group would divulge what government department they were speaking with, if they were speaking with one because you have asked and put it on a forum which would only assist the current administration? Read between the lines if possible? But ALL other questions have been answered in full detail with absolute transparency! You are so hung up on the process and not the fact that these boys are trying to bring positive change and shown a hell of a lot of guts than most people I know to do it. Emotional? @@@@@@@** right it is!

[mountainsofpain]

...or just sitting back blowing your own trumpet about what you think is literary genius.

Regards,
Rake

Well, it is literary genius compared to your substantial contribution to the debate so far.......

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Do you really think the group would divulge what government department they were speaking with, if they were speaking with one because you have asked and put it on a forum which would only assist the current administration? Read between the lines if possible? But ALL other questions have been answered in full detail with absolute transparency! You are so hung up on the process and not the fact that these boys are trying to bring positive change and shown a hell of a lot of guts than most people I know to do it. Emotional? @@@@@@@** right it is!

I'm not the one who claimed that all avenues had been taken.

If you don't want the statement challenged, then don't make it in the first place.

[OnLooker]

Perhaps see the edit in update regarding your fascination with the regulatory authorities.

[Ancient Tiger]

to be fair he was correct about the department of fair trading not being the right department

[mountainsofpain]

to be fair he was correct about the department of fair trading not being the right department

That's why I asked, as I wasn't sure.

[Ancient Tiger]

Well, it is literary genius compared to your substantial contribution to the debate so far.......

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I'm not the one who claimed that all avenues had been taken.

If you don't want the statement challenged, then don't make it in the first place.

There is no problem having it challenged, and I am happy to discuss. It is when significant detail of their process has been discussed over and over, and your blatant refusal to accept the answer is what becomes the problem. You just do not want to accept it, I mean jesus, everyone commenting on this forum is sick of your comments, and I don't even know them! They can ALL see they have been answered.

[Balmain Boy]

There is no problem having it challenged, and I am happy to discuss. It is when significant detail of their process has been discussed over and over, and your blatant refusal to accept the answer is what becomes the problem. You just do not want to accept it, I mean jesus, everyone commenting on this forum is sick of your comments, and I don't even know them! They can ALL see they have been answered.

Probably 4 or 5 times, but you are wrong about one thing... You know me pretty well! Haha

[mountainsofpain]

There is no problem having it challenged, and I am happy to discuss. It is when significant detail of their process has been discussed over and over, and your blatant refusal to accept the answer is what becomes the problem. You just do not want to accept it, I mean jesus, everyone commenting on this forum is sick of your comments, and I don't even know them! They can ALL see they have been answered.

You don't speak for everyone on this forum.

And even if you don't like my comments, too bad. Don't make it increasingly personal and nasty. There is no need.

Just ignore me, or ignore my comments, or complain to the mods. I'm not fussed.

Despite what you say or may think, many of my points/questions have been ignored.

If you don't agree with that, fine by me. It is a discussion forum after all. Contrary opinions are part of the game.

[Balmain Boy]

I would be proud to be at a level where I have put 45 years of service into a club, be a hall of famer, life member at two clubs, and been involved with starting multiple junior clubs in non AFL areas that are now two of the most successful junior clubs in the state. Nice work in destroying your credibility MOP by lowering yourself to personal and unjustified attacks towards stalwarts of the game. As far as personal attacks on you... Where are they?

[mountainsofpain]

I would be proud to be at a level where I have put 45 years of service into a club, be a hall of famer, life member at two clubs, and been involved with starting multiple junior clubs in non AFL areas that are now two of the most successful junior clubs in the state. Nice work in destroying your credibility MOP by lowering yourself to personal and unjustified attacks towards stalwarts of the game.

Where have I attacked him?

[Balmain Boy]

Sinking to his level perhaps

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So I have a question for you MOP similar to the one that Tiges asked previously... If all avenues had been taken would you do anything to save your club?

[mountainsofpain]

Sinking to his level perhaps

Yeah, I made a tongue in cheek comment that I thought might be taken the wrong way so I had second thoughts and deleted it.

And it was sinking to the level of his post. It was personal. Hence why I wrote what I did when deleting it.

So you seriously call that an attack? Do you seriously think that means I disrespect the work he has done in the game because of that?

Christ......................

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Sinking to his level perhaps

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So I have a question for you MOP similar to the one that Tiges asked previously... If all avenues had been taken would you do anything to save your club?

Answered it already. But, again......

Absolutely, but within reason. I would never condone a player walk off for instance. It's disrespectful to the opposing club, the umpires and the competition itself.

And, to be honest, I still fear that it could prove to be counterproductive. I don't see how the League is going to be very happy with what has happened. I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that a positive investigation with a positive outcome ensues.