What's Wrong With Goodes?

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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #61
    Re: Re: Re: What's Wrong With Goodes?

    Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
    So you base a players value on the amount of votes an umpire gives, the same group of tools you call ******* idiots every week. For your information, Adam Goodes did not win last year's Best & Fairest award. What does that tell you about the Brownlow? Best & Fairests are the best gauge of a players value to the team, not the BS umpire based rubbish that is overly glorified. Even players themselves value the MVP award voted by their peers more highly than the Brownlow. The only reason that players regard Brownlow's as "an honour" is because it bring them extra bargaining power for their contracts.
    You really ruin any possible arguments with some silly comments or factual errors.

    Goodes did not win the B&F last year but he also didn't win the Brownlow, so it tells you nothing about either.

    He did win the Brownlow in 2003 and also won the B&F that year.

    As for the Brownlow, yes there are a lot of problems with it and other awards are often a better reflection of the best player.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      #62
      Re: Re: Re: What's Wrong With Goodes?

      Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
      So you base a players value on the amount of votes an umpire gives, the same group of tools you call ******* idiots every week. For your information, Adam Goodes did not win last year's Best & Fairest award. What does that tell you about the Brownlow? Best & Fairests are the best gauge of a players value to the team, not the BS umpire based rubbish that is overly glorified. Even players themselves value the MVP award voted by their peers more highly than the Brownlow. The only reason that players regard Brownlow's as "an honour" is because it bring them extra bargaining power for their contracts.
      What has last years B&F got to do with Goodes winning the Brownlow in 2003?

      You come on here criticising players, with nothing constructive about what you have to say, and giving no justification for your comments, then complain when people disagree with you. Get real. If you have criticisms to make at least come up with something constructive as an alternative.

      Time for you to have a Bex and a good lie down.
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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #63
        He even won a TLM in 2003.

        I wonder if he will win one this year?

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        • satchmopugdog
          Bandicoots ears
          • Apr 2004
          • 3691

          #64
          Isn't it time Luffy took over the running of the TLM?
          "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #65
            Originally posted by satchmopugdog
            Isn't it time Luffy took over the running of the TLM?
            Luffy doesn't visit anymore.

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            • Sanecow
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Mar 2003
              • 6917

              #66
              Originally posted by ScottH
              Luffy doesn't visit anymore.
              After what you did to his reputation, it's no surprise.

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              • ScottH
                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                • Sep 2003
                • 23665

                #67
                Originally posted by Sanecow
                After what you did to his reputation, it's no surprise.
                I might start on your reputation next.

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                • Sanecow
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 6917

                  #68
                  Originally posted by ScottH
                  I might start on your reputation next.
                  It'll be a tough job to find a spot that isn't already damaged.

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                  • Chow-Chicker
                    Senior Player
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1602

                    #69
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: What's Wrong With Goodes?

                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    What has last years B&F got to do with Goodes winning the Brownlow in 2003?

                    You come on here criticising players, with nothing constructive about what you have to say, and giving no justification for your comments, then complain when people disagree with you. Get real. If you have criticisms to make at least come up with something constructive as an alternative.

                    Time for you to have a Bex and a good lie down.
                    Isn't suggesting he chase his opponent offering a constructive alternative?

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                    • goswannie14
                      Leadership Group
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 11166

                      #70
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's Wrong With Goodes?

                      Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                      Isn't suggesting he chase his opponent offering a constructive alternative?
                      Considering he has done that more this year than any other year, then it is not a factual comment. I think thew point has already been made repeatedly that Goodes is the type of player that other teams cannot match up on, he is their problem.

                      BTW I think you will find that Paul Roos knows how to get the best out of him, as has been evidenced with his form and syle of play over the years that he has been coach, culminating in his being involved in last years premiership.

                      My only criticism of Goodes is similar to many others, if he could play at his best every game no-one would ever get near him.

                      Quite frankly your comments about him are unfounded and more than just a little bit narrow minded.
                      Does God believe in Atheists?

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                      • Wardy
                        The old Boiler!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 6676

                        #71
                        Come back Charlie - all is forgiven!!!!!
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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #72
                          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's Wrong With Goodes?

                          Originally posted by goswannie14
                          I think thew point has already been made repeatedly that Goodes is the type of player that other teams cannot match up on, he is their problem.
                          So much for that theory. Goodes was obliterated by Lonie tonight.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Chow-Chicker
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1602

                            #73
                            Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What's Wrong With Goodes?

                            Originally posted by goswannie14

                            Quite frankly your comments about him are unfounded and more than just a little bit narrow minded.
                            I'm not going to say "I told you so", but I told you so. Who's problem was Ryan Lonie tonight?

                            Goodes is great, but when we play good opposition, his defensive game is exposed and that can be detrimental to the team, as it was tonight.

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15978

                              #74
                              First Lonie goal was when he was Davis's opponent. I don't think Lonie was as damaging as you make him out to be.
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                              • goswannie14
                                Leadership Group
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 11166

                                #75
                                Originally posted by ugg
                                First Lonie goal was when he was Davis's opponent. I don't think Lonie was as damaging as you make him out to be.
                                According to the commentary tonight, Goodes played really well as did Lonie. I agree with you ugg.

                                Cow licker you're still full of @@@@.
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