Why is the Syney crowd so passive?

[Chiasmus]

Actually, I was thinking during the game on Friday - I was being pretty loud and so were some others in my row, but I kept getting really angry that everyone was too cool to chant.
I actually yelled out in 3 qtr time "I wish I was too cool to chant like everyone else here" but to no avail.
I do have one request / suggestion... the drum that started the "x x xxx xxxx SYDNEY!" Chant - that one SUCKS for Telstra. It never gets enough momentum and its too hard for the rest of the ground to join in cos the timing gets too hard and everyone tried to yell at the same time and then it just sound lame.
I think the "Syydddnnneeeeeyyyy" one is the most powerful, followed by the "Sydney x x x" one.
I think at the GF we need to be prepared to sing the Syyyydddnnneeeeeyyy chant - particularly when the weagles supporters start their "Barry is a wanker" one...
*sigh* Predictable..

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by laughingnome
snip ... But getting back to the rivalry thing: Sydney has 4 bona-fide rivalries now that should immidiately scream "full house"; West Coast, Carlton, Brisbane and St. Kilda. But where is the local support? They couldn't care. Educate the fan base, and then they'll demand Chris Judd's head on a plate. Until then we are stuck with the soft-crowd tag.

end rant.

Never end the rant laughingnome!!
I thought that Barry Hall Hall was supposed to educate the Sydneysiders.
They have been running the same ad for the last three weeks (the one where Jude Bolton runs all over the field). Maybe if they rotated the ads, and added another that says "GO FERAL", it would help the Sydney crowd.
I know myself (and the nephews & nieces) stop whatever we're going when we hear the music to the ad and watch!!

It's a thought.
CONTINUE RANT ....

[Wardy]

Re: Re: Why is the Syney crowd so passive?

Originally posted by AussieAnge
Hey ORB are you trying to imply that I have a low IQ or that I'm not loud at the games? (I wouldn't class myself as feral but the woman in front of Wardy might).

that lady wasnt fond of my Maraca's either - but they worked and they will be going to Melbourne!

[Steiger]

I'm annoyed people were trying to start a wave halfway through the third term - this happened at the Richmond game as well.

I thought the Premiership quarter (along with the rest of the game) was a fantastic battle with great passages of play from both teams and here we are with some people not interested in the game but their own entertainment trying to start a wave.

Fair enough, a wave is fun at the cricket anytime because, let's face it, not a lot happens at the cricket. But during the Swans PF when there's 2.2 in it is not on and shows a lack of interest and understanding of the game.

[Wardy]

Originally posted by Steiger
I'm annoyed people were trying to start a wave halfway through the third term - this happened at the Richmond game as well.

I thought the Premiership quarter (along with the rest of the game) was a fantastic battle with great passages of play from both teams and here we are with some people not interested in the game but their own entertainment trying to start a wave.

Fair enough, a wave is fun at the cricket anytime because, let's face it, not a lot happens at the cricket. But during the Swans PF when there's 2.2 in it is not on and shows a lack of interest and understanding of the game.

And you forgot about the beach ball - I mean who needs that crap!

[Danzar]

Re: Why is the Syney crowd so passive?

Originally posted by Old Royboy
I?ve finally worked out the reason why the Sydney crowd is so passive.

On Saturday night I went to the Dragons v Storm match: the crowd made heaps of noise, but a major difference from a Swans crowd was about 50 pts in an IQ test. We were sitting on Strathfield station after the match and watched as the northern based Dragon fans piled on to the Newcastle train. It was ?all aboard? the bogan express.

Ausiie Rules in the southern and western states covers the entire society. In Sydney it doesn?t. Is a @@@@carter going to spend his time at the footy discussing his chance of promotion or yelling for his team? Go fish.

The answer is easy ? The Budgies and Crows give it. If you want a loud crowd, get ferals as your fanbase. JF, please take note.

Sorry to say, but that's a pretty narrow view.

You can't just say that so-called 'ferals' by definition, yell louder.

Wouldn't you say that you're more likely to 'yell' or whatever it is you do if you're 100% confident in your understanding of the rules? This applies to anyone, feral or not.

So, that being the case, you're less likely to yell if you're not confident in the rules? Only a small proportion of the crowd really know the game and wouldn't be caught dead screaming 'ball' if someone has just marked, by way of example.

To pin it down to the proportion of 'ferals' (or ticket prices) in attendance is drawing a long bow indeed.

[silent lurker]

Re: Re: Why is the Syney crowd so passive?

Originally posted by Danzar
Wouldn't you say that you're more likely to 'yell' or whatever it is you do if you're 100% confident in your understanding of the rules? This applies to anyone, feral or not.

There are many ferals out there who wouldn't have a clue about the rules, but that doesn't stop them from being 100% confident that they understand them, and it certainly won't stop them abusing the umpires.

[Danzar]

Re: Re: Re: Why is the Syney crowd so passive?

Originally posted by silent lurker
There are many ferals out there who wouldn't have a clue about the rules, but that doesn't stop them from being 100% confident that they understand them, and it certainly won't stop them abusing the umpires.

Hmmm, good point but that doesn't make them feral, but rather stupid.

[silent lurker]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is the Syney crowd so passive?

Originally posted by Danzar
Hmmm, good point but that doesn't make them feral, but rather stupid.

It makes them feral AND stupid.

[Missy]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
It was pretty loud in the section where I was on Friday.

Or was that just me? (My voice is coming back today though).

I think I was in your section GS..Bay 140? It was awesome down there.I think the people behind us probably got sick of our little songs about every player. lol Poor Sandi when the guys infront of us starting chanting FREEAAAAKKK SHHHOOOWWW when he was playing fullback.

[Mike]

Sydney people like to watch the game. I think it's that simple. As soon as the ball was bounced on Friday night, the crowd go silent and watch intently.

I'm not saying other clubs don't have supporters that can cheer and watch, or that we can't walk and chew gum. But it just seems to me we like to sit quietly and watch.

[smartplay]

QUOTE]Originally posted by Chiasmus


I do have one request / suggestion... the drum that started the "x x xxx xxxx SYDNEY!" Chant - that one SUCKS for Telstra. It never gets enough momentum and its too hard for the rest of the ground to join in cos the timing gets too hard and everyone tried to yell at the same time and then it just sound lame.
I think the "Syydddnnneeeeeyyyy" one is the most powerful, followed by the "Sydney x x x" one.
I think at the GF we need to be prepared to sing the Syyyydddnnneeeeeyyy chant - particularly when the weagles supporters start their "Barry is a wanker" one...
*sigh* Predictable.. [/QUOTE]

could it be that the drum may not be loud enough? weak drum sound dont pull the chant together.

perhaps 2-3 large drums, striked together like those strong muscled japanese drum performers with fat drum sticks - then the whole stadium can hear the beat before they chant. Any beginner fan would know how to do the simple chant. Once the chant gathers momentum, I would expect most to join in.
another simple method is tempo clapping in unison, as seen in british soccer. so effectve and so great spectacle to watch. get your team players adrenalin juice runng to the max. This can be started by diferent drum beat (again with 2-3 loud drum). Tempo clapping is easy too - anyone can join in
"sydneeee" chant may not be the best, in my opinion as u could be 1) alienating the growing melbourne based suppporters presumably a large number from S Melbourne and 2) for other reasons. Perhaps another chant word is to be used eg Swanniiiie This chant or other chant word could then be consistent with Sdyney fans as well as Melbourne Swan supporters which will invaluable for players during the away Melbourne games.
Get more "ooomph" on the drum this final Vs Eagle and see what happen. Perhaps hire a japanese drum striker with japanese taikwando belts, no shirt, big red band on the fore head, baggy Judo trousers and a large drum/fat drum sticks.
This might just give our players shot in the arms to excel to the max

With unison chant, a small crowd can be turned into a large intimidating crowd. A large crowd with united voice will be that 1% extra in demoralising opponents. It is worth 2 goals and help deter any players dreaming during a match.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by Missy
I think I was in your section GS..Bay 140? It was awesome down there.I think the people behind us probably got sick of our little songs about every player. lol Poor Sandi when the guys infront of us starting chanting FREEAAAAKKK SHHHOOOWWW when he was playing fullback.

Hey Missy. Yep the "Freak Show" chant was pretty funny. Good creative songs there, too - we laughed.

[Missy]

You'll have to join in next time GS You and the guy in front did a really goods job at getting our bay riled up.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by smartplay
QUOTE]Originally posted by Chiasmus


I do have one request / suggestion... the drum that started the "x x xxx xxxx SYDNEY!" Chant - that one SUCKS for Telstra. It never gets enough momentum and its too hard for the rest of the ground to join in cos the timing gets too hard and everyone tried to yell at the same time and then it just sound lame.
I think the "Syydddnnneeeeeyyyy" one is the most powerful, followed by the "Sydney x x x" one.
I think at the GF we need to be prepared to sing the Syyyydddnnneeeeeyyy chant - particularly when the weagles supporters start their "Barry is a wanker" one...
*sigh* Predictable..

could it be that the drum may not be loud enough? weak drum sound dont pull the chant together.
With unison chant, a small crowd can be turned into a large intimidating crowd. A large crowd with united voice will be that 1% extra in demoralising opponents. It is worth 2 goals and help deter any players dreaming during a match. [/QUOTE]

That is why I have been so dispondant & grouchy on here over recent days. Because we weren't that, despite me trying my guts out.(maybe I try too hard? ) But thanks heaps for your constructive feedback all the same.

Normally the "xx xxx xxxx Sydney" chants works a ripper at Homebush. At normal H & A matches it really echoes off the back stand there. Because of the fact that all the louder types (yes, that means you Cruiser! were kind of thinly spread amongst of a sea of event watchers and corporate types it was kind of muted on Friday.

Plus at matches like this (and this should not escape mention) that the Sydney-based Cheer Squad is miniscule at finals. We only took up 3 rows, with half of the squad being from Melbourne. I know AFL Rules are rules. they are highly strict in terms of people needing to sit a certain amount of home games in the CS area AND be club members to get finals ticket allocation. That means people like DavidV, Glenn & The Undertaker cannot come and help us out come finals time. I think the club could possibly look at opening up seats up in the CS area to anyone who'd like to contribute and sit with other loud Swans supporters.We did this to great effect in 2003 against Brisbane, many hard core mothers like Diego (el lanzador de los tambores) got to sit with us and go mad! The question is, do we want loud support at finals in Sydney or not?

As regards the "Sydney" chant, the club actually told the Melbourne-based Cheer Squad to start chanting "Sydney" so that we could start learning to bond a bit more as a club. There was no more "Go Swans", which whilst understandable given the unpopularity of the move north, was always very anoemic & poxy-sounding. I always used to help lead the "Go Swans" out of a wish to support my Melbourne comrades. It was support for the team & I understood their initial reluctance to chant "Sydney". Lucky those days are completely over & we gt guys like SydneySwans1989 were are from a South family but are brought up with the club AS Sydney.

We actually had two drums going on Friday night. Benny_W had one & SydneySwans1989 the other. They are both very small, with my old one of the verge of falling apart. I'd love to buy a big beasty one like the Bulldogs use at NRL matches, but have not been able to afford it I'm afraid. (Maybe the club could cover one in sponsors logos and get us a big booming marching band one, complete with big felt donger thing?! )

JF