I feel let down by the players

[Agent 86]

Originally posted by anniswan
Something I live with is that if you are reallly angry enough to reply to a post and feel emotional about it, leave the reply 24hours and then reply when more rational. I'll be in Ballarat for the next 2 days so won't have a chance to reply, just as well probably.

I will say this though, go and follow Hawthorn, Essendon or Carlton and complain. FFS 2 GF's in 2 years and it's still not good enough.

See you all on Friday

On ya Annie! Gotta put this in perspective. I think the current group has played (and been coached) well above ANYBODY's expectations since Roos took over. I'm disappointed with the loss - but after absorbing it all for a few days - I can't be disappointed with MY team.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Annie Haddad
This thread is crap.
I have a suggestion for you.
In 2007, get out from in front of your computer terminals, get selected to the team, train four or five days a week, make the senior team, play 22 weeks of home & away football, play four weeks of finals (or two or three), play a grand final and either win or lose.
How can you feel "let down by the players".
Sheesh.
No respect.

The nuff nuff mantra: "You couldn't do any better".

[Agent 86]

Originally posted by Sanecow
The nuff nuff mantra: "You couldn't do any better".

She's right tho'.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Agent 86
She's right tho'.

I guess we should not criticize the Government either. Or the church. Or the CEO of any company. Or a surgeon that botches an operation or a doctor that misdiagnoses. No criticism of anything you couldn't do better yourself. All stations to nuff nuff.

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by Sanecow
The nuff nuff mantra: "You couldn't do any better".

Cow ... I KNOW I (personally) can't do better. I can't speak for all of you, but having met some of you last Saturday, I KNOW some of YOU can't do better either.

I have absolutely no inclination to play AFL (in any way, shape or form). All I'm saying is that our guys did REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY well this year, and that this "I feel let down by the players" line is a load of crap. The only time that you have a "right" to feel "let down by the players", is if you are ONE of them.

Considering the fact that the 15 other captains in the comp at the beginning of the year didn't even rate us another Grand Final appearance and that 2005 was a "mistake" or we were just "lucky" with our injuries, proves that we are a force to be reckoned with.

I, for one, are incredibly proud of them and their efforts in 2006.
Bring on 2007.

[NMWBloods]

Well I hope you never criticise anyone Annie as it is most likely you won't be able to do better than they did!!

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Well I hope you never criticise anyone Annie as it is most likely you won't be able to do better than they did!!

Way over 175.68% MOST likely I'll will NEVER be able to do any (or anywhere near) as good or better than they did ... EVER!!!!

I generally try not to criticise anyone NMW, it's not a really good feeling when I am being criticised, so I try not to pass on bad feelings to anyone .... especially when I know I can do no better!!!

I reckon that the last two years have been the BEST two years in the last 20 for me.

[Agent 86]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I guess we should (sic) criticize the Government either. Or the church. Or the CEO of any company. Or a surgeon that botches an operation or a doctor that misdiagnoses. No criticism of anything you couldn't do better yourself. All stations to nuff nuff.

@@@@ no! I could do a better job than John Howard. & the pope. & most surgeons. All I ask is that we put recent performance into perspective. We lost a game we could've won if we played a little better at times - it hurts - especially against those knobs - but we gotta deal with it gracefully. Hardly makes us nuffs.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Agent 86
@@@@ no! I could do a better job than John Howard. & the pope. & most surgeons. All I ask is that we put recent performance into perspective. We lost a game we could've won if we played a little better at times - it hurts - especially against those knobs - but we gotta deal with it gracefully. Hardly makes us nuffs.

I've had a gutful of "don't criticize the team" and "real fans support the team through thick and thin" and cheering off a team that doesn't care.

If you want pom poms and rah rah rah go team, then @@@@ off from RWO and join the cheersquad. If it hurts your feelings to see a player or team bagged when they underperform then stay in your room and write love letters to Goodes or Crouch or whichever player you are stalking.

[msb]

Originally posted by Steiger
Who really thinks for a moment that the players went out there to lose or be happy with second place or only give a half arsed effort? I can say with absolute certainty that every player would have been prepared to give their all for a premiership.

The fact is the better side won on the day, not the hungrier or more determined side.

If you feel let down, empathise with the players for a moment.

Stop bagging your own team and start supporting them through the thick and thin. That's what it's about.

Well said, they tried their guts out. At the end of the day it all came down to luck and things like the ball bouncing different ways etc, swans had a tonne of luck last year and for most of this year it had to run out eventually. I think everyone should just be grateful they saw a flag last year, cause that could of easily gone the weagles way as well. Look at rabbles like saints, melbourne, carlton, essendon, kangas etc they would kill for a flag and sure we lost this year BUT at least we won it last year!

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I've had a gutful of "don't criticize the team" and "real fans support the team through thick and thin" and cheering off a team that doesn't care.

If you want pom poms and rah rah rah go team, then @@@@ off from RWO and join the cheersquad. If it hurts your feelings to see a player or team bagged when they underperform then stay in your room and write love letters to Goodes or Crouch or whichever player you are stalking.

Cow, my feelings aren't hurt cause the team are getting bagged. Hells bells pet, I sat through the 80's .... what a freakin' bagging that was!! I've felt what it feels like to lose 26 games in a row.
The simple fact that Sydney and West Coast beat FOURTEEN other teams to the grand final is huge. Win or lose, at least we were there. I'm pretty bloody happy with that.

Bring on 2007.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Annie Haddad
The simple fact that Sydney and West Coast beat FOURTEEN other teams to the grand final is huge. Win or lose, at least we were there. I'm pretty bloody happy with that.

"We didn't finish last, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We won a game, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We made the eight, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We won a final, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We made the Grand Final, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."

Been there, seen it before. All very poor consolation prizes.

The Swans have missed quite a few chances to win a Premiership over the last 20 years and this year was the worst.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Sanecow
"We didn't finish last, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We won a game, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We made the eight, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We won a final, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."
"We made the Grand Final, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."

You're easily impressed, cow.

[hammo]

Originally posted by msb
sure we lost this year BUT at least we won it last year!

It's this attitude that really gets on my nerve and was often used as an excuse by some fans throughout the year. "At least we won last year" - yes it does dull the pain somewhat but we were a decent half of football short of joining the all time great teams by winning back to back flags. Will the excuse "At least we won in 2005" still be trotted out next year, in 2008 and 2018 if we don't win another flag??
It must be ingrained in some Swans' fans to not only tolerate but celebrate mediocrity. I am not for a minute suggesting 2006 was mediocre, but the reality is the current team was 1 point short of staging probably the greatest grand final comeback since Carlton in 1970. That would really standout in the history books.

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by ScottH
You're easily impressed, cow.

They are a tough team to follow. I didn't mention this pearler:

"We won a game this season, I'm pretty bloody happy with that."