Swans Vs Bulldogs Game Thread

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Originally posted by floppinab
One pass does not a champion footballer make

Nor does one game.

[Bart]

Originally posted by TMSS
well your entitled to your opinion I guess.

Heh heh. Welcome to to RWO TMSS. Liz is one of our more educated, to the point, unemotional and balanced posters. The rest of us a far more 'unhinged'.

[Jeffers1984]

Just remember we still haven't seen our top pick in Daniel O'Keefe. This guy was raved for his awesome footskills.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Swannette
"I worry about Kieran Jack's footskills. Not only are his kicks not horribly flash but to my naked eye they never really appeared to lack any sort of distance or penetration."

One game does not a young footballer break.

A generalisation was made about KJ's footskills and there was a clear example in the game of this generalisation being overstated. The only point I was making. Never said he would be a champion.

I may be well off with my comment. I hope I am.

Maybe it is the fact that his dad played RL that has me actually looking at his skill level at all.
Excuse me for harking back the stereotype of RL players noting being able to really kick & catch footies properly.

I worry that he may still be too slight to make it in senior footy. I dearly want him too, as there is a great deal of mileage out of the son of an ex RL international choosing to try Aussie Rules instead.

JF

[nat]

Originally posted by Jeffers1984
Just remember we still haven't seen our top pick in Daniel O'Keefe. This guy was raved for his awesome footskills.

Oh that's right, i thought he was ment to be playing today though?

[liz]

Jack's kicking has always looked OK to me - not in the Eski class, certainly, but good enough for AFL level footy if he can develop sufficent all around weapons.

And not quite sure why Schneider was picked out as a poor kick. He isn't always on target - few are - but he has better length and penetration than most.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
What about Eski, McVeigh, O'Loughlin, O'Keefe, Davis, Buchs, Goodes etc? no team has 30 odd players with perfect skills, you're a harsh judge, especially to single out Kirk and Schneider, two very important players who always make up for their errors.

Malceski, Davis and McVeigh are nice kicks. Goodes is generally pretty good. O'Loughlin is hit and miss. O'Keefe just kicks long bombs. Buchanan's foot skills are variable, particularly over distance.

I think our foot skills over distance are just okay. Our game plan consists of a lot of short kicks to position.

[liz]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG

Surely we should be looking to develop Grundy as a small forward instead of him in the FF line. The only way I can see Bevan's career changing is if he maybe looks to become a tagger. Because otherwise I think his time is vety limited at AFL level, at least with us, NSW boy or no..

Not sure where the Grundy / Bevan comparison / interchangability comes from.

Grundy ain't a small forward. He's 192cm - key position height. His overhead / contested marking is one of his strengths, whereas his skills below his knees just look ok, rather than great. So while O'Loughlin can play tall and small, Grundy looks to be a typical FF type.

Most of Bevan's senior football has been played as a back pocket or tagging an opposition HFF. Like most players he's pushed forwards occasionally and snared the odd goal but I don't recall him ever spending significant time up forward, certainly not since 2004.

On the basis of today's showing, Bevan does have his work cut out to keep himself in contention for senior football. He's at that age and level of experience where he needed to make something of a show today but never looked to have any time, even if he was set up on a couple of occasions by absolute hospital passes.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by NMWBloods

I think our foot skills over distance are just okay. Our game plan consists of a lot of short kicks to position.

And a quick succession of handballs out of defence. A couple of times today a couple of the players stuffed up completely doing this.

But when you play a risky high possession game out of defence, you are sometimes going to look a bit of a fool when you are not 100% switched on mentally & it doesn't come off.

JF

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
What about Eski, McVeigh, O'Loughlin, O'Keefe, Davis, Buchs, Goodes etc? no team has 30 odd players with perfect skills, you're a harsh judge, especially to single out Kirk and Schneider, two very important players who always make up for their errors.

Of your list, Buchanon is not a great kick, Kirk is a poor kick, Schneids is ok. The point is, that we have a list with some very good footballers (and some stayers) who have punched above their weight for a long time. It is a club speciality - to get the best form blokes that are not overly endowed with natural talent. I'm not sure why you have taken offence to that. I thought that it was something we were collectively proud of?

[Casey36]

Kirky`s got himself a tat.
Bout the only thing that excited me in that game, oh and when the goal umpire got taken out. Hahaha

[anniswan]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Kirk is a poor kick,

Not a bad supagoal today, you must admit.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by anniswan
Not a bad supagoal today, you must admit.

Did not see it, but I was out in the wind today. I daresay it was kicked to the northern end. The way he chips them up in the air he'd have been kicking 60m on way and -10 the other.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Of your list, Buchanon is not a great kick, Kirk is a poor kick, Schneids is ok. The point is, that we have a list with some very good footballers (and some stayers) who have punched above their weight for a long time. It is a club speciality - to get the best form blokes that are not overly endowed with natural talent. I'm not sure why you have taken offence to that. I thought that it was something we were collectively proud of?

I'm certainly proud of the ability to extract the absolute best from our list, of course, but i also think alot of them don't get the credit they deserve and are put down far too easily by some members of RWO. Sometimes it feels like people are quicker to jump all over a player after a bad game, than they are to praise him when he plays well, even Roos doesn't seem to escape critisism after all he's done for the club.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
I'm certainly proud of the ability to extract the absolute best from our list, of course, but i also think alot of them don't get the credit they deserve and are put down far too easily by some members of RWO. Sometimes it feels like people are quicker to jump all over a player after a bad game, than they are to praise him when he plays well, even Roos doesn't seem to escape critisism after all he's done for the club.

Roos is a @@@@@@@@ and Kirk can't kick. Their achievements don't change that.