Paul Roos: Rocket's attack off target

[Zlatorog]

Or alternatively, the player empowerment championed by Roos, otherwise known as the Bloods Code, and credited by Roos and the players as delivering the current run of success, is the actual formula to success and Roos himself has had very little to do with it.

Spot on!

[Damien]

Eade was a wonderful Sydney coach, who probably stayed a season too many.

1998 was clearly our best chance out of his reign (not withstanding the obvious chance we had in 1996), but we did luck out to face the reigning premier on a wet night in Sydney. Things simply didn't work our way.

I don't think Eade was, or is, a perfect coach, but he moulded us into a team that could beat anyone, make finals and under him the modern, powerful, Sydney Swans were born.

I find it hard to believe there can be anger against him 5 years and a Premiership after he left. It's simply pathetic.

I might start a "Is Barrassi our worst coach for failing to take us to the finals with Lockett, Roos, Kelly, Cresswell, Dunkley in the team" thread.

It's fine to talk about regrets during Eade's coaching stint, but there was a lot to like. He didn't win us the flag, but seeing Roos is the only person since 1933 to do that anyway, I don't think that is too much of a crime either.

[liz]

Or alternatively, the player empowerment championed by Roos, otherwise known as the Bloods Code, and credited by Roos and the players as delivering the current run of success, is the actual formula to success and Roos himself has had very little to do with it.

Though if the empowerment is championed by Roos, it is hard to argue he himself has very little to do with it.

[reigning premier]

Gary Buckenara also played in the same Hawthorn side as Eade

Eade
Mathews
Buckenara
Ayres

and a few other... all coached.

IIRC, at one stage there was 5 or 6 of the Hawks 80's team that were all coaching at the same time.

[originalswan]

Though if the empowerment is championed by Roos, it is hard to argue he himself has very little to do with it.

Exactly.

Although the general premise of the day was that Eade had pushed the barrow of "us against them" passed its use by date. The players were playing stale football and "favourites" always seemed to get an easier ride.

Regardless, as has been said countless times, when Eade is on his game there probably is no better game day coach.

Perhaps though he is once again exploiting this situation to build up an "us against them" mentality within the young Bulldogs.

[AnnieH]

if rocket had any respect left for the swannies, he wouldn't be attacking us like he is. he pretty much accused us of cheating. bad rocket, bad.
still sounds like a cry baby sooky whinger.
get over it rocket, the doggies are our bitches.

[NMWBloods]

Have a look at win/loss ratios, when it matters, in finals !!
Roosy wins hands down....In fact, the Swans have the best win/loss ratio in finals over the last 3 years, of any team in the comp !!!

Same as WC I believe.

But for one millisecond and some luck and some genius, Roos' finals record wouldn't be so much ahead of Eade's.

The difference is very fine.

[liz]

Same as WC I believe.

But for one millisecond and some luck and some genius, Roos' finals record wouldn't be so much ahead of Eade's.

The difference is very fine.

I think we're one ahead, courtesy of beating WC in the first round of the finals in 2004.

The 2005 and 2006 records are mirror images of each other.

[ROK Lobster]

Richmond have lost less finals under Wallace than Sydney have under Roos.

[Zlatorog]

Richmond have lost less finals under Wallace than Sydney have under Roos.

BTW, how many finals did Richmond play under Wallace?

[liz]

Richmond have lost less finals under Wallace than Sydney have under Roos.

That's it. Evidence is conclusive. There's a gremlin lurking as ROK Lobster.

[swantastic]

Don't you start. Bad enough having Annie slap me around. I don't need another!

Annie said you like it rough,sounds like she was right.

[NMWBloods]

I think we're one ahead, courtesy of beating WC in the first round of the finals in 2004.

The 2005 and 2006 records are mirror images of each other.

You're probably right there - I was trying to guess quickly on my way out.

[TheMase]

Yep - this 'us against them' attitude is a bit tedious.

Eade was an excellent coach. It's arguable whether Roos is better.

Eade:
Poor at motivating players
Excellent with match day tactics and response.

Roos:
Excellent at motivating players
OKAY with match day tactics and response

That is the way I see it.

[NMWBloods]

Eade:
Poor at motivating players
Excellent with match day tactics and response.

Roos:
Excellent at motivating players
OKAY with match day tactics and response

That is the way I see it.

That's not an unreasonable view from what we observe as outsiders.