Round 16 - vs Eagles

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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    Originally posted by anniswan
    cousins, judd and kerr made the difference. we were completely outclassed.
    Yep, in the 2nd half at least. Judd and Kerr were relatively quite in the first half. Kerr lifted in the 3rd term and the Judd got a whole new lease of life in the last qtr.

    We went down hill when ROK and Malceski went out of the game, during the 3rd.

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    • Xie Shan
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2929

      Originally posted by timthefish
      yep and i loved the way cousins responded to the win - no grand-standing, no self-seeking appeals to the crowd or camera.
      That's good to hear- I have to admit I turned off right after the final siren, I still find it hard to watch WC players celebrating after last year's GF. A great comeback from a great player, yes, but atm I'm finding it a bit hard to acknowledge it, as I can't help but feel disappointed that the Swans are now, clearly, a shadow of the team that threw everything at the Eagles in the second half of the grand final. We were simply outclassed when it counted.

      On a more positive note, how good was O'Keefe in the first half!! Thought it was one of McVeigh's best games, he showed some genuine skill at times, his brilliant pick-up and perfect pass to Leo in the third showed it's worth perservering with him. Remember McVeigh snr was an ordinary player until a few years ago, maybe his little brother will also get better with age...

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      • Foreign Legion
        Senior Player
        • Feb 2003
        • 3315

        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
        If it was Judge Judy we were watching and the kept mentioning his possession count then I could understand the gripe. It was a football match, he was one of the best on ground. Kirk's possessions were largely junk too, and he didn;lt get anywhere near 40 of them...

        Cousins is not a cheat as far as anyone knows. He tested positive to recreational drugs in the off season. He may well have a drug problem but it had nothing to do with his performance tonight.
        Well he is a cheat as "recreational drugs" are against AFL rules. Have you seen the video of Ben outside Crown Casino? Very Big Night Indeed.

        I wonder why he ran from the Booze bus - hmmmm.

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        • SimonH
          Salt future's rising
          • Aug 2004
          • 1647

          Originally posted by ROK Lobster
          For all the plaudits Kirk receives, does he ever do anything with the ball? He is the most over rated player in the AFL. He's a hard worker. He would not get a game at the Eagles.
          Of all the deliberately tendentious statements you've made over the years, that is quite the silliest. Answer your own question by ordering a copy of the game, or any Sydney game, and watching it again. Carefully if need be.

          John Worsfold may well use him differently to how Roos uses him, but to suggest he wouldn't make their 22 is... um... stoopid.

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          • ROK Lobster
            RWO Life Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 8658

            Originally posted by Foreign Legion
            Well he is a cheat as "recreational drugs" are against AFL rules. Have you seen the video of Ben outside Crown Casino? Very Big Night Indeed.

            I wonder why he ran from the Booze bus - hmmmm.
            Holding the ball is against AFL rules so I guess Malceski is a cheat too?

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            • Foreign Legion
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2003
              • 3315

              Originally posted by timthefish
              maybe for you. personally, i see this as an excellent demonstration of why it was always really an issue about cousins' health.

              You hate capital letters don't you?

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              • Foreign Legion
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2003
                • 3315

                Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                Holding the ball is against AFL rules so I guess Malceski is a cheat too?
                Wow - good comeback - I'm done.

                relevance - negative 839034

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                • ROK Lobster
                  RWO Life Member
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 8658

                  Originally posted by Foreign Legion
                  Wow - good comeback - I'm done.

                  relevance - negative 839034
                  Well mate, why do you consider breaking some rules cheating, but others not?

                  He carved us up because he is such a good player, and has been for years. The fact that he has (or had) a recreational drug problem is irrelevant. TO whinge about it is simply poor form from a supporter of a losing side.

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                  • ugg
                    Can you feel it?
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15962

                    I'm disappointed in Everitt Jolly tonight, I thought Seaby and Cox especially dominated them quite easily and gave the Eagles midfield great service. Are they just flat-track bullies? Spida's big games have been against inexperienced rucks like Pattison and O'hAilpin.
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                    • Legs Akimbo
                      Grand Poobah
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 2809

                      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                      Cousins is not a cheat as far as anyone knows. He tested positive to recreational in the off season. He may well have a problem but it had nothing to do with his performance tonight.
                      Exactly, so why did they keep focussing on HIM all night - from the intro, throughout the game and afterwards? They seemed to be treating him as someone who was coming back from adversity, which is what irritated me.
                      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                      • Foreign Legion
                        Senior Player
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3315

                        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                        Well mate, why do you consider breaking some rules cheating, but others not?

                        He carved us up because he is such a good player, and has been for years. The fact that he has (or had) a recreational drug problem is irrelevant. TO whinge about it is simply poor form from a supporter of a losing side.
                        Well, I guess you don't get suspended for 1-2 years for a push in the back - but you do for what Cousins has done - do you see the difference?

                        And who knows if he is over his addiction - he didnt get done last year so he may have a very good technique for getting over it - he has contacts as we know.

                        But, you stick up for him - he needs all the help you can give him.

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                        • Foreign Legion
                          Senior Player
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 3315

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          I'm disappointed in Everitt Jolly tonight, I thought Seaby and Cox especially dominated them quite easily and gave the Eagles midfield great service. Are they just flat-track bullies? Spida's big games have been against inexperienced rucks like Pattison and O'hAilpin.
                          Yep, good call. I think you can forgive Everitt as a 33 yo and played a great game last week. He is only here for the finals (if we get there) as is an acknowledged gamble.

                          Jolly is a bigger worry - especially as it seems Doyle is finished. Who will be our ruckmen in 2009?

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                          • 573v30
                            On the bandwagon...
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 5017

                            This just in: 21st of July will be officially recognised as "Ben Cousins Day" in Western Australia.
                            I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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                            • ROK Lobster
                              RWO Life Member
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 8658

                              Originally posted by Foreign Legion
                              Well, I guess you don't get suspended for 1-2 years for a push in the back - but you do for what Cousins has done - do you see the difference?
                              As far as I know Cousins has not been suspended. I don't condone his drug use, I don't really care what he puts in his body. He played well. After missing 14 weeks of football I thought it was a pretty amazing effort. In fact, you could probably call it inspiring. It was certainly better than some of the insipid efforts of some of the "Blood brothers" this season.

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                              • ugg
                                Can you feel it?
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15962

                                Actually West Coast did suspend him, but that was for missing training.
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