(Not Such A) Jolly Good Trade Coming (merged Jolly trade thread)

[Bas]

Well it seems he is off to mexico again.

Now that he is a genuine premiership ruckmen, I would think that he would command a first round pick.

As mentioned in the previous thread, Carlton, Saints and Bulldogs need a ruckman. I'd say Jolly would request to go to Saints or Doggies because they have the best chances of a premiership in the next three year.

Do we trade for player or draft pick?

I think Sydney will trade for player based on Sydney's previous trade experience.

However, unlike the last three years, this time we should have either pick 10 or 11 as our first pick.

We could could package that with Jolly for pick 3 from Carlton.

Jolly and Vogels/Grundy for another top 10 pick?

Instead of guessing which player, I'm suggesting which strategy do you think we should go?

I don't know what the strength of the draft is this year.

[doctor swan]

jolly for hayes, now that would be a good trade

[Sanecow]

Seaby is apparently out of contract. Make a three way deal.

[WASwansFanatic]

Seaby is a crab!

[Ludwig]

If Brisbane are really looking to off load Cameron Wood, I would trade Jolly for Wood and perhaps get a swap of first round picks to boot. Brisbane can then on trade Jolly for the player or pick of their choice. I would expect that Jolly would have more tradeable value than Wood at this stage, given that Jolly is a proven commodity, so it may work out well all around.

I think Wood will actually be a better long term value than Jolly anyway. Jolly is a pretty good ruckman and can kick a goal as well, but is not a smart footy player and is unlikely to become one. Wood has a lot of potential and is likely to be a very good ruckman in a few years time, and is good enough to back up Everett next year.

If Jolly is to go, then I think we will need another ruckman in return, since there will be no proven ruckman, excluding Goodes, to back up Everett, who must be some risk of not getting through the season unscathed at his age.

[Jeffers1984]

If Brisbane are really looking to off load Cameron Wood, I would trade Jolly for Wood and perhaps get a swap of first round picks to boot. Brisbane can then on trade Jolly for the player or pick of their choice. I would expect that Jolly would have more tradeable value than Wood at this stage, given that Jolly is a proven commodity, so it may work out well all around.

I think Wood will actually be a better long term value than Jolly anyway. Jolly is a pretty good ruckman and can kick a goal as well, but is not a smart footy player and is unlikely to become one. Wood has a lot of potential and is likely to be a very good ruckman in a few years time, and is good enough to back up Everett next year.

If Jolly is to go, then I think we will need another ruckman in return, since there will be no proven ruckman, excluding Goodes, to back up Everett, who must be some risk of not getting through the season unscathed at his age.

I don't think you can on trade players. It would have to be a trade for Jolly to a Melbourne club for draft picks and use the draft pick to give to Brisbane for Wood.

[AussieAnge]

I don't think you can on trade players. It would have to be a trade for Jolly to a Melbourne club for draft picks and use the draft pick to give to Brisbane for Wood.

I suspect Ludwig is referring to a 3-way trade a la Hall

[Ludwig]

The situation at Brisbane is similar to that at Melbourne when Jolly coudn't get much playing time because Jeff White was so dominant and played almost the entire game. Brisbane have to choose between Leuenberger and Wood as their number 2 ruckman, and both seem capable of being number one ruckmen in a couple of years. And remember that Charman is only 25, and they have a reasonable back up ruckman in McDonald, so barring injury, Brisbane simply have too many quality ruckmen for some time to come. So Brisbane have an opportunity to trade one of them, and it looks like Wood, for a quality player or draft pick.

My argument is that if Jolly wants to leave, there is a real opportunity to get a good replacement in a very promising ruckman who is 5 years younger. It looks like one of those 3 way deals that just seem to happen without the public knowing until it is announced. Despite the loss of Jolly looking like a serious problem for the Swans, it could turn out okay in the end due to this situation at Brisbane and that Jolly is likely to be seen to have more value than Wood at the moment, given that Jolly is a proven high quality ruckman. This leaves the possibility that both the Swans and the Lions can benefit from such a deal.

With Spida at 34 years old next year, and Doyle likely to be delisted regardless of what happens to Jolly, the Swans again look very vulnerable in the Ruck department again. It seems like trying to make this deal come off would be the best strategy for the Swans to cover the loss of Darren and his lovely family.

[hammo]

With Spida at 34 years old next year, and Doyle likely to be delisted regardless of what happens to Jolly, the Swans again look very vulnerable in the Ruck department again.

Seems like a good enough reason to keep Donk on the list don't you think?

[Ludwig]

Seems like a good enough reason to keep Donk on the list don't you think?

No point keeping him on the list if he's always injured. Otherwise, I think we should keep him.

Let's just trade Jolly's wife for Fevola's wife. I think the swap will do both players a lot of good. Jolly's wife needs a lesson on how bad married life can really be.

[punter257]

give him back to melbourne

[DeadlyAkkuret]

give him back to melbourne

We'll take Bruce thanks!

[i'm-uninformed2]

He's not such a jolly old fellow

I'll be first to shut off the "good riddance" crowd by saying if true, a big loss.

Everitt is 33, Donk is goooooooone, and Currie is still a kid.

So, go all out to keep him or demand a top 10 draft pick and trade on for someone as good

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/swan-may-head-south-next-winter/2007/09/05/1188783319882.html

[ScottH]

Would definitely be worth a better pick (17?) than what we got him for

[Doctor J.]

I'll be first to shut off the "good riddance" crowd by saying if true, a big loss.

Everitt is 33, Donk is goooooooone, and Currie is still a kid.

So, go all out to keep him or demand a top 10 draft pick and trade on for someone as good

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/sw...783319882.html

This bloke is a keeper at all costs.

That said, with the dearth of quality ruckmen in the AFL at the moment, if we have to trade we need to go hard and demand a top 10 pick for him and possibly more. We gave up our first round, pick 15 for him. At the time he was a bench sitter, who maybe had a bit of talent but couldn't get a run cause Jeff White hogged the limelight. He is now a proven ruckman with a premiership medal hanging around his neck who would be no 1 ruckman in most AFL teams, and he has age on his side. Such players do not come cheap.

The more I think about it, a top 10 pick, plus a player, and I'm not talking a Nick Daffy type of player either, just not sure who.

Suggestions anyone?