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  • Wardy
    The old Boiler!
    • Sep 2003
    • 6676

    #91
    Keiran Jack elevated to seniors list 2008

    Heard it on the 5am bulletin - excellent news.
    I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
    Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
    AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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    • stellation
      scott names the planets
      • Sep 2003
      • 9723

      #92
      Originally posted by SimonH
      So, Sydney will have 40 senior players in its squad next year, and only 3 specialist ruckmen. One of whom is barely out of (oversized) nappies, and another of whom is 48 years old. We taking much of a risk, you think? Imagine the nightmare scenario where both Jolly and Everitt go down-- are we gonna get the Weagles and the Pahhhhr with the 1, 2, 3 sucker-punches of LRT, Richards and Playfair? Or drag Goodesie and his knees out of ruck retirement yet again?
      Not sure how he will go at AFL level as he would be giving away a lot of height, but big Jesse White is a more than decent ruckman in the reserves.
      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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      • royboy42
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2006
        • 2078

        #93
        Not too many sides have decent ruck depth below their top two! In fact not many sides have a top two!

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        • lwjoyner
          Regular in the Side
          • Nov 2004
          • 962

          #94
          have I missed something

          With the delisting, transfer in and out and the upgrades from the rookie list
          and the fact we will pick up C Bird with last pick and leave us with picks 11 and 26 that leaves us with 40 on list. I didnt think you could do that unless I have missed some players onto the veterans list. Can someone help?

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          • TheGrimReaper
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2007
            • 2203

            #95
            Originally posted by lwjoyner
            With the delisting, transfer in and out and the upgrades from the rookie list
            and the fact we will pick up C Bird with last pick and leave us with picks 11 and 26 that leaves us with 40 on list. I didnt think you could do that unless I have missed some players onto the veterans list. Can someone help?
            We have 2 players on the outside veterans list, Michael O'Loughlin and Leo Barry if that helps?

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            • Bleed Red Blood
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2003
              • 2057

              #96
              Originally posted by royboy42
              Not too many sides have decent ruck depth below their top two! In fact not many sides have a top two!
              Yeah, most sides do actually.

              I'm bored so I'll show you.

              Adelaide have:
              Maric, Griffin, Biglands, Moran and Sellar.
              Brisbane:
              McDonald, Leuenberger, Charman and Tippett.
              Carlton:
              A. O'Hailpin, Ackland, Cloke, Hampson and Jacobs.
              Collingwood:
              Fraser, Bryan and Wood.
              Bombers:
              Chartres, McKinnon, Ryder, Laycock and Hille.
              Freo:
              Warnock, Sandilands
              Cats:
              Ottens, Mooney, West and Blake.
              Hawks:
              McEntee, Taylor, Campbell, Bailey and Renouf.
              Roos:
              Hale, McIntosh and Goldstein.
              Demons:
              Neeves, White, Meesen, Johnson, Jamar
              Power:
              Minson, Lade, Giles, Deluca and Brogan.
              Tigers:
              Pattison, Grahams, Simmonds.
              Saints:
              Van Rheeman, King, Blake, Rix, Gardiner
              Eagles:
              Spaanderman, Cox, Seaby and Lynch.
              Dogs:
              Street, Skipper, Minson.

              One injury to Jolly or Everitt and we're screwed.

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              • Jewels
                On the Rookie List
                • Oct 2006
                • 3258

                #97
                And what difference would Doyles non-retirement make? He spent 90% of the season injured.

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                • Industrial Fan
                  Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3318

                  #98
                  We do have BLT and/or Playfair as utility ruckmen, so it's not all doom and gloom.

                  Maybe we could even use Currie?! A lot of the players mentioned above are quite crap, and dont offer a lot more than what a sand bag would.
                  He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
                    Yeah, most sides do actually.

                    I'm bored so I'll show you.

                    Adelaide have:
                    Maric, Griffin, Biglands, Moran and Sellar.
                    Brisbane:
                    McDonald, Leuenberger, Charman and Tippett.
                    Carlton:
                    A. O'Hailpin, Ackland, Cloke, Hampson and Jacobs.
                    Collingwood:
                    Fraser, Bryan and Wood.
                    Bombers:
                    Chartres, McKinnon, Ryder, Laycock and Hille.
                    Freo:
                    Warnock, Sandilands
                    Cats:
                    Ottens, Mooney, West and Blake.
                    Hawks:
                    McEntee, Taylor, Campbell, Bailey and Renouf.
                    Roos:
                    Hale, McIntosh and Goldstein.
                    Demons:
                    Neeves, White, Meesen, Johnson, Jamar
                    Power:
                    Minson, Lade, Giles, Deluca and Brogan.
                    Tigers:
                    Pattison, Grahams, Simmonds.
                    Saints:
                    Van Rheeman, King, Blake, Rix, Gardiner
                    Eagles:
                    Spaanderman, Cox, Seaby and Lynch.
                    Dogs:
                    Street, Skipper, Minson.

                    One injury to Jolly or Everitt and we're screwed.
                    I would have thought that this list proves royboy42's point about decent ruck depth no numerical.
                    Does God believe in Atheists?

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                    • swantastic
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 7275

                      Originally posted by SimonH
                      Amazing how almost no players in their mid 20s who are on the outer, are delisted by the Swans. They all 'retire'. Especially if they are under contract. Bunch of geniuses at the Swans administration.
                      May be a bit of money changing hands under the table
                      Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                      • caj23
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2462

                        Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
                        Yeah, most sides do actually.

                        I'm bored so I'll show you.

                        Adelaide have:
                        Maric, Griffin, Biglands, Moran and Sellar. Moran & Sellar aren't ruckmen, Biglands is coming off a knee reco. Still have 3 decent rucks though
                        Brisbane:
                        McDonald, Leuenberger, Charman and Tippett. Tippett plays for Crows, but very good ruck division anyway
                        Carlton:
                        A. O'Hailpin, Ackland, Cloke, Hampson and Jacobs.Terrible, Judd will find life in the Carlton midfield a bit harder than the eagles
                        Collingwood:
                        Fraser, Bryan and Wood. Wood is the only decent ruck and he is still pretty green
                        Bombers:
                        Chartres, McKinnon, Ryder, Laycock and Hille.McKinnon has been delisted, Ryder is not a ruckman - otherwise solid
                        Freo:
                        Warnock, Sandilands Quality but dont want an injury
                        Cats:
                        Ottens, Mooney, West and Blake. Won't want Ottens to go down now as Blake is a trier at best
                        Hawks:
                        McEntee, Taylor, Campbell, Bailey and Renouf. Have drafted well with ruck depth in mind, no stars in there though
                        Roos:
                        Hale, McIntosh and Goldstein. 2 quality rucks but no depth
                        Demons:
                        Neeves, White, Meesen, Johnson, Jamar White just keeps on going, won't want him to go down though
                        Power:
                        Minson, Lade, Giles, Deluca and Brogan. Quality top 2 but backup is questionable
                        Tigers:
                        Pattison, Grahams, Simmonds. Will need Simmonds on the park
                        Saints:
                        Van Rheeman, King, Blake, Rix, Gardiner Rossy Lyon will be crossing his fingers that King stays fit and Gardiner can regain old form as not much else there
                        Eagles:
                        Spaanderman, Cox, Seaby and Lynch. Spandermaan delisted, Lynch is a pinchhitter only. Seaby is a plodder IMO
                        Dogs:
                        Street, Skipper, Minson Hudson will be desparately needed as the other 3 are suspect.

                        One injury to Jolly or Everitt and we're screwed.
                        As others have already noted I think your analysis proves that our position is no more precarious than most of the other clubs

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                        • Bleed Red Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2057

                          Originally posted by goswannie14
                          I would have thought that this list proves royboy42's point about decent ruck depth no numerical.
                          And what decent ruck depth do we have? We only have three rucks in total, one's ancient and another in nappies.

                          I think it shows how important ruckman are, that clubs go to great lengths to secure them. Collingwood traded a first round draft pick for a dude who's played 16 games in three years. Wouldn't happen for a midfielder.

                          I mean how many have we drafted? MeikelJohn, Mott, Erikson etc haven't worked out so we've had to trade in Jolly, Chambers, Ball, Everitt. And we still have a ruck problem.

                          Ruck is a more important position than what, say, Brennan will play - Tall flanker - Which is essentialy the same role Dempster played for us, yet Blue Steel was traded for nothing 'cause he won't have any opportunities.

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            BRB, I dont think anyone is disagreeing with you re our ruck stocks, its just that the majority of other clubs are in the same boat.

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                            • Robbo
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2007
                              • 2946

                              Add another ruckman to the rookie list and we should be fine.

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                              • annew
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 2164

                                What if we were really desperate? Adam Goodes won a Brownlow playing in the ruck.

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