Schneider: You Don't Know What You've Got 'til It's Gone

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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #16
    Originally posted by cruiser
    Schneider is still a young player.

    Their is widespread disbelief that Sydney traded him to the Saints for next to nothing. I've been asked about it a number of times by supporters of other teams. Given that when Schneider was at Sydney he was dropped at times when other players were playing worse than he was, I continue wonder whether this has more to do with personality and attitude than actual performance.
    Had everything to do with his performance. He was unfit (disgracefully) for a young small, poor aerobic capacity, low workrate, failed to work hard off the ball and tackled poorly. He was a poor man's Davo without his goalkicking accuracy. Moore and Jack will be more than adequate replacements.
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    • connolly
      Registered User
      • Aug 2005
      • 2461

      #17
      Originally posted by 2005
      Good Luck to him, hope he doesnt get a kick against us Round 1 , though as the season progresses I have know doubt, injuries aside Adam Schneiders
      trade will really hurt us !! mad:
      Im looking forward to Schnieder/Bevo match up. Particularly the first tackle. Wouldn't miss it for quids.
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      • goswannie14
        Leadership Group
        • Sep 2005
        • 11166

        #18
        Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
        I agree with your point on wait until the regular season starts and see how consistent he is - very important.

        However, I can't necessarily agree with the above quote. Schneider was a young player and we have kept older players like J Bolton and Mathews and Crouch.
        Yes, LA made the same observation.
        Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
        As one example of an alternative, they could have persuaded Mathews, Crouch and possibly a couple of others to call it a day and paid their salaries out as 'administrators'.
        To which I replied.
        Originally posted by goswannie14
        I can't help wondering if the example you give may start to take place during the season proper. However, it would have made more sense if it happened during the off season.
        In the end I guess we will just have to wait and see how he performs in the season proper.

        IMO he will be no different to when he played with us. Great when he was on song, but that was not often enough for a player of his capabilities.
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        • Mike_B
          Peyow Peyow
          • Jan 2003
          • 6267

          #19
          Originally posted by connolly
          Im looking forward to Schnieder/Bevo match up. Particularly the first tackle. Wouldn't miss it for quids.
          You mean the one that will result in a free to Schneids for in the back or a high tackle?

          I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

          If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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          • snappy
            On the Rookie List
            • Oct 2007
            • 23

            #20
            Played well for the saints, has great hands in traffic, but i know im happy with the trade.. Without it we wouldnt have Mattener..
            Besides i never thought we had enough room for Buchanon and Schnider, both can play similar roles, and i reckon Moore will just as good if not better as a repalcement.

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            • connolly
              Registered User
              • Aug 2005
              • 2461

              #21
              Originally posted by Mike_B
              You mean the one that will result in a free to Schneids for in the back or a high tackle?
              I mean the one that will have him looking over his shoulder and hearing footsteps for the rest of the match
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              • connolly
                Registered User
                • Aug 2005
                • 2461

                #22
                Originally posted by Dr Diabolical
                Fantasy land...
                As in Disneyland? Which is where schnieder might be
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                • Robbo
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2007
                  • 2946

                  #23
                  Originally posted by connolly
                  As in Disneyland? Which is where schnieder might be
                  Aren't you the guy who thinks Paul Bevan is a good player?

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                  • ernie koala
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2007
                    • 3251

                    #24
                    Originally posted by connolly
                    Im looking forward to Schnieder/Bevo match up. Particularly the first tackle. Wouldn't miss it for quids.
                    I'd prefer to see Schnieder/Jack match up...Also the first tackle.
                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                    • connolly
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2461

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Robbo
                      Aren't you the guy who thinks Paul Bevan is a good player?
                      Bugger - they are on to me
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                      • Bleed Red Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2057

                        #26
                        LOL @ people saying Schneider playing well in the pre-season doesn't mean anything, and yet talking about Bird winning brownlows based on the same thing.

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                        • TheGrimReaper
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2203

                          #27
                          Originally posted by connolly
                          Bugger - they are on to me
                          Damn you for having a positive opinion on Paul Bevan.

                          Meh! I have confidence in Bevan if he does play on Schneider that he'll beat him.

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                          • ROK Lobster
                            RWO Life Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 8658

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
                            LOL @ people saying Schneider playing well in the pre-season doesn't mean anything, and yet talking about Bird winning brownlows based on the same thing.
                            It's very simple:

                            Roos traded Schneider. It follows that Schneider;
                            - gave us nothing, was fat, unmotivated and bad for the team;
                            - was unBloodslike; and
                            - will never achieve anything at another club (trading him was a stroke of genius - suckers!)

                            Roos drafted Bird and gave him #14. It follows that Bird;
                            - is the answer (unless of course he is traded at some later stage, then replace Bird for Schneider in the above).

                            This is based on the standard RWO position that all decisions made by the club are made by Roos and that Roos is perfect (he won us a flag etc). There is no reason why pre-season form cannot be interpreted to reinforce the standard position.

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                            • Xie Shan
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2929

                              #29
                              LOL @ ROK. In all seriousness I think Roos got it wrong on this one. Schneider is a good player who added some much-needed spark to the team.

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                              • connolly
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 2461

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                                It's very simple:

                                This is based on the standard RWO position that all decisions made by the club are made by Roos and that Roos is perfect (he won us a flag etc). .
                                Yep its a shocker. Many club supporters have trust and confidence in a coach who managed a team which had few outstanding stars but won and almost won a consecutive flag against the odds, the predictions of so-called experts and one of the best teams of the last twenty years. Silly us.
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