V PA @ SCG Sunday. Out: Davis N In: Barlow E

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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #76
    Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
    Or, you could keep the lively match-winner in the side (Davis), .
    The last match he won was two and a half years ago. The 2005 free pass doesn't work anymore.
    Bevo bandwagon driver

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      #77
      Originally posted by Nico
      Gee he looks good in the merchandising brochure. Did you see the pic of him looking for his lunch in his school bag. How could they drop a bloke who looks so good in the Swans gear. Such wonderful pics of him must really drag in the members and they managed to throw a couple of his action shots in also. What a legend, what a player: don't worry about the knockers, you're not playing badly, you're just not getting a touch.
      That's why I visit RWO.

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      • 573v30
        On the bandwagon...
        • Sep 2005
        • 5017

        #78
        Compare the pair...

        Nick Davis - 10 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 1 goal (out of the team's total of 6), 2 behinds, 1 tackle, 65 Dream Team points, 83 SuperCoach points.

        Paul Bevan - 2 kicks, 3 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle. 19 Dream Team points, 27 SuperCoach points.

        The selectors are idiots.
        I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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        • Reggi
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 2718

          #79
          Originally posted by connolly
          The last match he won was two and a half years ago. The 2005 free pass doesn't work anymore.
          Yep living off one game, Davis's career is pretty much over, will be first one gone. Tipped this a few days ago and it's obvious really

          Half Forward's are the easist players in a team to replace. He has the negative of not being particularly fit, so many 1st 2nd 3rd year players are going to start their careers playing in his position, their fitness is probably as good if not better, or will quickly go past his level of fitness. More kms on the ground is more pressure on the opposition.

          Good decision by Roosy
          You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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          • TheMase
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 1207

            #80
            Originally posted by Nico
            I think that change is so asinine that I have decided not to post for the next fortnight,
            No!

            You are one of the only ones that speak sense around here consistantly. You tell it how it is!

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #81
              The reason that Davis made room for Barlow was not because Davis played poorly, but rather because Davis played well!

              If you step back and take a look at the bigger picture, this early part of the season is more about getting the best squad on the field in the latter part of the season. How may times has Roos spoken about it being a long season and that he is not sure about how things will turn out. This part of the season is as much about information than winning any particular game.

              In the broader sense of the season as a whole, the coaches need to know what the players are capable of, especially the young players. Surely Davis would seem better value than Bird or Grundy at this point, but few have suggested that any of the youngsters be dropped after one game. I am sure that Roos wanted to play Barlow last week, but thought it was just too many youngsters at once. So Barlow in makes sense in that context, and not dropping any of them makes sense too. The question is why Davis? Davis played like you would expect him to play. Kicked a good long goal, was close on a number of other long hauls, did well when he played up ground. Davis will be just fine. Nothing else to prove.

              But there is a lot to prove for many of the Swans after last week's performance. Looking at last weeks team, Bevan would have been an alternative. But I feel if Bevan is dropped at this stage of the season, we will never see him again. Bevan is really fighting for his place and I think Roos is going to give him every chance to try to hold his place. Other than those mentioned, I would think the rest of team picks itself. End of story.

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              • DeadlyAkkuret
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2006
                • 4547

                #82
                Originally posted by 573v30
                Compare the pair...

                Nick Davis - 10 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 1 goal (out of the team's total of 6), 2 behinds, 1 tackle, 65 Dream Team points, 83 SuperCoach points.

                Paul Bevan - 2 kicks, 3 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle. 19 Dream Team points, 27 SuperCoach points.

                The selectors are idiots.
                Lollerskates. Connolly got pwnt!

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                • TheMase
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1207

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  The reason that Davis made room for Barlow was not because Davis played poorly, but rather because Davis played well!

                  If you step back and take a look at the bigger picture, this early part of the season is more about getting the best squad on the field in the latter part of the season. How may times has Roos spoken about it being a long season and that he is not sure about how things will turn out. This part of the season is as much about information than winning any particular game.

                  In the broader sense of the season as a whole, the coaches need to know what the players are capable of, especially the young players. Surely Davis would seem better value than Bird or Grundy at this point, but few have suggested that any of the youngsters be dropped after one game. I am sure that Roos wanted to play Barlow last week, but thought it was just too many youngsters at once. So Barlow in makes sense in that context, and not dropping any of them makes sense too. The question is why Davis? Davis played like you would expect him to play. Kicked a good long goal, was close on a number of other long hauls, did well when he played up ground. Davis will be just fine. Nothing else to prove.

                  But there is a lot to prove for many of the Swans after last week's performance. Looking at last weeks team, Bevan would have been an alternative. But I feel if Bevan is dropped at this stage of the season, we will never see him again. Bevan is really fighting for his place and I think Roos is going to give him every chance to try to hold his place. Other than those mentioned, I would think the rest of team picks itself. End of story.
                  That is quite a good point. I like it.

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                  • Robbo
                    On the Rookie List
                    • May 2007
                    • 2946

                    #84
                    Originally Posted by connolly
                    The last match he won was two and a half years ago. The 2005 free pass doesn't work anymore.
                    That's a bit rich coming from a Bevan fan.

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                    • DeadlyAkkuret
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 4547

                      #85
                      I'm sorry, but I can't make any sense out of that, Ludwig. We're playing lesser players, because they need time to prove themselves, and this is at the expense of proven match-winners?

                      The only way this would make sense is if Sydney were giving up on finals already, and I doubt that's the case.

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #86
                        Davis dropped

                        Nick Davis, perenial scapegoat, has been dropped for the Port game.

                        Paul Roos and the selection committee havent had an original idea in 3 years. I'm suprised they havent recalled Matthews - he must be injured.

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                        • woo
                          double vodka lemon pls
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 961

                          #87
                          are you serious..where did you read this?
                          you know what they say, dirty pants- clean botty

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Reggi
                            Yep living off one game, Davis's career is pretty much over, will be first one gone. Tipped this a few days ago and it's obvious really

                            Half Forward's are the easist players in a team to replace. He has the negative of not being particularly fit, so many 1st 2nd 3rd year players are going to start their careers playing in his position, their fitness is probably as good if not better, or will quickly go past his level of fitness. More kms on the ground is more pressure on the opposition.

                            Good decision by Roosy
                            It's not like our defensive game is the problem. Our problem is we can't kick goals.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • JudesaGun
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 554

                              #89
                              Originally posted by connolly
                              Bevo was switched onto Xav Clarke in the second quarter to stop the run off their half back line after Davo had completely failed to chase him down. Bevan did the job. However Davo is able to be exploited by defenders with pace of which Port have a basketful. We have a problem with Davo if he won't run up the ground. He didn't on Saturday night and pays the price.
                              Do you not remember the numerous times Bevan was 3rd/4th man up, only to spoil his teammate and leave a Saints crumber to collect and kick the goal... not to mention the tunrovers and freekicks.

                              He is arguably our worst player in the last 5 years.

                              He has not done a single thing I can remember that to any extent turned the fortunes of a game, unless it was in favour of the opposition.
                              Last edited by JudesaGun; 28 March 2008, 10:30 PM.
                              Sanford Wheeler 4 President!

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                              • Zlatorog
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 1748

                                #90
                                I don't believe Davis is injured, because you wouldn't out injured players on emergency list.
                                He did something that warranted to be dropped and only the club (and Davis probably) knows what that was. Maybe, we'll find out one day.
                                We'll see if the FW line is better with Bazza in and without Davis or the other way around.

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