V PA @ SCG Sunday. Out: Davis N In: Barlow E

[ROK Lobster]

at least bevans got guts

The terrible legacy of the spirit of the bloods (that seems to have vanished) is that a preparedness to knock yourself unconscious is seen to be more important than football skills at this club.

[stellation]

The terrible legacy of the spirit of the bloods (that seems to have vanished) is that a preparedness to knock yourself unconscious is seen to be more important than football skills at this club.

Advice given to young kids playing footy

It's better to be taken home in an ambulance than take your eyes off the ball.

It's just a game.

[Robbo]

at least bevans got guts

Guts alone is simply not enough. You and Paul Roos need to get that through your heads.

[bedford]

Guts alone is simply not enough. You and Paul Roos need to get that through your heads.

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[Pace To Burn]

why the hell would you drop davis, when there are people like bevan still in the side?

dumb decision

When will you simple people learn that a football team is made up of many diff types of players and these two couldnt be more diff. One is a forward and one is a tagger/defender. So even if you think Davis should be in it wouldnt be at the expense of Bevan would it. If he doesnt play and is not injured i would suggest it has something to do with a couple of things that have been mentioned already, either 1 He hasnt been putting in hard enough and was told he needed to show more and hasnt. 2 He hasnt delivered on his ability for quite some time and they have had enough( Having the ability to win games and kick goals from 50 is alot diff from doing it and he hasnt for a while). or 3 Hes done something stupid off field again. Alot of people on here bag players solely on stats of how many kicks they get or how many tackles they make. If you had ever played the game you would understand these things arent the only things you judge a persons game on.Sometimes a player might hold an opposition player to half his normal Quota and only get 5 kicks himself but has a win for the team against his direct opp and goes unnoticed.

There are so many variables to why Davis may have been dropped but i would Suggest that unless anyone here is on the coaching staff and knows the reason that you all stop thinking emotionaly and bagging them and wait to find out.

[BSA5]

When will you simple people learn that a football team is made up of many diff types of players and these two couldnt be more diff. One is a forward and one is a tagger/defender. So even if you think Davis should be in it wouldnt be at the expense of Bevan would it.

That is looking at things too simply. The guy who came in, Barlow, is a utility player, able to play as both a forward, back and midfielder. So, Barlow could have replaced Bevan as well. Also, there's a thing called re-arranging a team; you don't have to have the exact same ratio of attacking midfielders to taggers each week. In fact, given that we played so defensively last week, and we did it so badly, dropping a defensive player for an attacking player would be arguably a very good idea.

[swantastic]

It doesnt look like ATM he is captain material,as he was saying at the start of the year.

Really we need Davo at his best because when he is on song it goes a long way to us winning.

[AnnieH]

What a load of garbage. No one was the matchwinner. Do you think the whole side should be dropped as they failed to do what they're meant to? This has to be one of the most stupid posts I've read on here in quite a while!

You should hang around more.

Davis is a senior player. I expect that a senior player would have tried a lot bloody harder to kick straight to win the game last weekend.

He had the opportunity - and poor skills lost us the game.

[AnnieH]

Snip .... Interestingly, N Davis has similar stats to L Davis and Didak at Collingwood and you don't see Malthouse dumping them as he knows they can do special things that you need on occasion.

The "special thing" we needed Davo to do on this "occassion" was to kick the goal that would have put the swans in front for the first time all night.

I think he's attitude of "it's just a game" is a bit lame for a professional footballer. Yes, to me, it's just a game. To Davo, it should be "just his livelihood".

[Matt79]

JUst reading some comments from Roos in The Australian may shed some light on Nick's dumping.

He mentioned that Barlow came in for Davis because we need more run and carry.

IMO I suspect the Swan's hierachy thinks that Davis does not work hard enough without the ball, the running, chasing and tackling. Not saying I always agree but Nicky D does have that touch of Dale Lewis...very laconic (is that the word?). My wife says he 'loafs' now and then!!

[liz]

JUst reading some comments from Roos in The Australian may shed some light on Nick's dumping.

He mentioned that Barlow came in for Davis because we need more run and carry.

IMO I suspect the Swan's hierachy thinks that Davis does not work hard enough without the ball, the running, chasing and tackling. Not saying I always agree but Nicky D does have that touch of Dale Lewis...very laconic (is that the word?). My wife says he 'loafs' now and then!!

You're probably right, but there were a fair few other players out there who did next to no running and carrying last weekend. Some of them might have run around in circles all night but they certainly weren't carrying the ball.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

You're probably right, but there were a fair few other players out there who did next to no running and carrying last weekend. Some of them might have run around in circles all night but they certainly weren't carrying the ball.

This is my main issue with the selection. People here keep saying Davis is lazy, and perhaps he wasn't "putting in as much" as his teammates. It's not as if his teammates were blitzing it like olympic athletes, and running around in defence like a headless chicken is hardly constructive work.

I'm getting a bad feeling about this season already, and it seems Roos is still playing favourites and rewarding those with strong "Bloods Ethos" too much. Play your best side, and get them to attack for once, or piss off to America. It's not THAT difficult, Paul.

[Pace To Burn]

That is looking at things too simply. The guy who came in, Barlow, is a utility player, able to play as both a forward, back and midfielder. So, Barlow could have replaced Bevan as well. Also, there's a thing called re-arranging a team; you don't have to have the exact same ratio of attacking midfielders to taggers each week. In fact, given that we played so defensively last week, and we did it so badly, dropping a defensive player for an attacking player would be arguably a very good idea.

No you dont have to keep any ratio but you still need to keep a balance and as said by Roos the match ups probably dont suit against Port and maybe davis contribution wasnt needed as much as Bevan. Defensive is how they play every week which is their strength, but as i said maybe they are just sick of Davis only performing to his ability once in 2 years, of course they wouldnt drop everyone who had a bad or average game but at least most of the players do enough or have a great game alot more often then he does.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

No you dont have to keep any ratio but you still need to keep a balance and as said by Roos the match ups probably dont suit against Port and maybe davis contribution wasnt needed as much as Bevan. Defensive is how they play every week which is their strength, but as i said maybe they are just sick of Davis only performing to his ability once in 2 years, of course they wouldnt drop everyone who had a bad or average game but at least most of the players do enough or have a great game alot more often then he does.

Where was I when Bevan had a great game?

[Pace To Burn]

Interestingly, N Davis has similar stats to L Davis and Didak at Collingwood and you don't see Malthouse dumping them as he knows they can do special things that you need on occasion.

i think youll find Didak and L Davis have had alot more influence on collingwood games in 06/07 than what N Davis has had on Sydney games