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  • bedford
    forward coach
    • Nov 2007
    • 362

    Originally posted by BSA5
    Apology accepted, and I'll return it with an apology to you. Bevan played the best game I've seen him play in a long time. I think playing him forward in bits was a master stroke. Who knows? Maybe that's where he will find his niche.
    wasn't bevo on sean b. at times in the last half?

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    • DeadlyAkkuret
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2006
      • 4547

      Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
      Watching the highlights on BigPond Footy. How bad does Tredrea look with that shiney scone?
      Also just saw the press conference. Does Roosy have the flu or something? Why was he rubbing his nose every 20 seconds?

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      • BSA5
        Senior Player
        • Feb 2008
        • 2522

        Originally posted by bedford
        wasn't bevo on sean b. at times in the last half?
        Yeah, I think he was at times. And he wasn't at times as well. Shaun Burgoyne played a blinder, and I don't think it would have mattered who was playing on him. Bevan played on him at times, so did other players. It was just his day
        Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          Originally posted by top40
          Are we ever going to get a game where the comments are 100% positive?
          As Ugg said.

          Our disposal at times today was still poor. We too often missed targets still. However, our pressure was so good and Port fell away so badly that we were able to recover to collect the wayward disposals. Won't be so easy in other games so that's an area we still need to improve upon greatly.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • SimonH
            Salt future's rising
            • Aug 2004
            • 1647

            Round 1 gave a fair inkling, and now round 2 has given a firmer hint: Heath Grundy has arrived as a footballer in 2008. He no longer looks one-dimensional and one-paced. He looks like he fits with the Swans' gameplan. And no, those two statements do not contradict each other.

            Really hope and expect to see him go on with it.

            The omission of Barlow in R1 was frustrating and mystifying: he provides a spark to a side that can become predictable to opposition coaches. Sydney is always more fun to watch with him in it.

            Moore is a player. A real should-be-automatic selection, Buchanan-in-2005 breakthrough year player. He should play all 20-something remaining matches this year, injury permitting, and spend progressively less and less time on the bench. Jack isn't at that level yet, but give him a couple of years and he should be. No disrespect to Bird, who has shown enough to think that he'll get there eventually, but he's still a few years off. He only justifies a spot right now ahead of the likes of Laidlaw as a 'let him learn in the firsts rather than Canberra' experiment.

            Bevan 2 goals, McVeigh 2, MOL and BBBH well and truly covering the specialist forwards' goalkicking quota: how will Nick get back in?

            The other lesson from today, as others have already said: the Swans are a dry-weather, daytime team. Play all of our matches during the day in sunny 20-something degree temperatures, and you could put down your glasses for a top 4 berth. Today was a little like Groundhog Day from the round 22 clash v Hawthorn last year.

            Unfortunately, TV and other issues mean that we have more than our share of night games.
            Last edited by SimonH; 30 March 2008, 10:37 PM.

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            • JF_Bay22_SCG
              expat Sydneysider
              • Jan 2003
              • 3978

              Originally posted by swansrule100
              that has to be the standard. I know we cant win by over 50 every week, but we can play that attacking style, they do hold it up and are happy to work it around, but they always looked to attacked and played good committed footy.

              Best part of the game Barry Hall.
              Yes, his renewed vigour in running at the football was very pleasing. But you have to admit people, as well as we played, Port's mainly young team tend to drop their heads when placed under pressure. We played well because we were ALLOWED to play well. Port are a running team with little idea how to defend and shut opponents down. Often we'd be streaming into our forward 50 with 3-4 people. Forwards were often unmarked.

              As well as we played today, top teams will NOT give us the leeway Port did. Brisbane & Brown next weekend will be a huge huge test up there.

              Still it is nice to know we have a footy team who can be fun to watch, for a change.

              JF
              "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
              (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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              • JF_Bay22_SCG
                expat Sydneysider
                • Jan 2003
                • 3978

                Originally posted by SimonH
                The other lesson from today, as others have already said: the Swans are a dry-weather, daytime team. Play all of our matches during the day in sunny 20-something degree temperatures, and you could put down your glasses for a top 4 berth. Today was a little like Groundhog Day from the round 22 clash v Hawthorn last year.
                Global warming = helping the Swans play good footy!

                We are a dry-weather day time SCG team. Other teams get lost on the wide wings there. We deliberately use the width & lots of short handballs to get the ball out of defence. Good well-drilled teams know this & know to attack players who more often than not will opt to play on (eg Leo Barry). Port did not even try to do this, which is to me indicative of the tactical naivety in Mark Williams' coaching.

                JF
                "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                • connolly
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 2461

                  Originally posted by bedford
                  wasn't bevo on sean b. at times in the last half?
                  No it was Kieran Jack on S Burgoyne in the second half until he was concussed at the 18 minute mark of the last quarter and taken off. Bevo played on Peter Burgoyne in the first quarter and nailed him with a termendous tackle. Bevo played on mainly Pearce and Boake in the second half.
                  Bevo bandwagon driver

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                  • Chilcott
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 595

                    Negative comments

                    I have made several posts in the past that were quite critical with the performance of some of our players, but after yesterday, I was pleasantly suprised and we may push for a top 4 spot.

                    My highlights yesterday were:

                    McVeigh's best game for his career (IMO).
                    Bevan is better up forward (he did spent a little bit of time down back yesterday and again made a wrong decision when under pressure, which resulted in a PA goal).
                    Moore, Jack and Bird again showed very good signs.
                    Grundy OK - beat Westhoff. I am concerned about his lack of pace.
                    Hall back to his best.
                    LRT's disposal is getting there.
                    The boy from Bega - the big cheese - I love it.

                    I will leave it that for now.

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                    • gossipcom
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2585

                      Whoever played on Peter B (along with Bevo, I think it was Mattner) did a fantastic job. He wasn't in the action at all until the final quarter when he kicked a goal. We actually thought he wasn't playing until he nailed a goal.

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                      • bedford
                        forward coach
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 362

                        Originally posted by connolly
                        No it was Kieran Jack on S Burgoyne in the second half until he was concussed at the 18 minute mark of the last quarter and taken off. Bevo played on Peter Burgoyne in the first quarter and nailed him with a termendous tackle. Bevo played on mainly Pearce and Boake in the second half.
                        bird played on pearce at times,i just watched it again.bevan was better but lets not get carried away with one good game in 20.
                        he still fumbled badly on a couple of occasions

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                        • TheMase
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1207

                          Bevan could be really handy for us up forward. Whilst he does not have the best skills, his pressure can force turn-overs and give others the opportunity to score.

                          Let us call him a sheep dog

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                          • shaun..
                            Stuck in Reserves
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 691

                            Originally posted by gossipcom
                            Whoever played on Peter B (along with Bevo, I think it was Mattner) did a fantastic job. He wasn't in the action at all until the final quarter when he kicked a goal. We actually thought he wasn't playing until he nailed a goal.
                            Leo Barry did an excellent job on Ebert - where was he?
                            "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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                            • gossipcom
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2585

                              It was Ebert and Peter B that we made note that two of their game-winners just weren't seeing any of the action.

                              That being said because of the job that Leo, Bevo and Marty did it allowed them to push up on the forward line in the end which resulted in the two formers to kicks goals.

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                              • shaun..
                                Stuck in Reserves
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 691

                                Originally posted by gossipcom
                                That being said because of the job that Leo, Bevo and Marty did it allowed them to push up on the forward line in the end which resulted in the two formers to kicks goals.
                                I was commenting to my friend how Port had the huge flood on, only Mattner and B2 were down back, and moments later Leo was lining up for goal
                                "In some ways we?re less predictable to ourselves and sometimes that can be detrimental because we don?t really know where we?re going" - P.Roos

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