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[NMWBloods]

I know your point, however, he hardly stood out last week when he played against 'school teachers'. He still needs to work as hard and show he is a class (or several) above when he goes back to the reserves.

But we know he's a class above.

It's interesting that when Goodes was working hard enough last year Roos said "He just looked like he wasn't working very hard and that's something he just needs to address himself." But when Davis isn't working hard enough he is dropped. An unfit J Bolton was also not dropped.

Davis should just do his few weeks penance in the reserves and then be returned to the seniors.

[Matt79]

But we know he's a class above.

It's interesting that when Goodes was working hard enough last year Roos said "He just looked like he wasn't working very hard and that's something he just needs to address himself." But when Davis isn't working hard enough he is dropped.

Yes but he did not play like he was a class above last week in the ressies and it is an attitude problem.

Goodes over many years has shown far more consistency of form than Nicky D has.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Nick Davis, however, I do think his chasing, tackling and off the ball pressure can at times be lacking.

[liz]

But we know he's a class above.

It's interesting that when Goodes was working hard enough last year Roos said "He just looked like he wasn't working very hard and that's something he just needs to address himself." But when Davis isn't working hard enough he is dropped. An unfit J Bolton was also not dropped.

Davis should just do his few weeks penance in the reserves and then be returned to the seniors.

Last year or last week?

I think Davis was a little stiff last week but to compare him and Goodes is nonsense. When did Goodes last finish outside the top 10 in the B&F? He has won twice (together with two AAs and two Brownlows). Davis, on the other hand, has yet to trouble the top 10 counters in the B&F.

And even when Goodes is having an ordinary game, he still gets the attention of a full-time tagger, whereas Davis, for all his skill, is frequently targetted as a player his opponent can run off and create.

[stellation]

Player empowerment leading to player equality should be the same across the board if the club wants to adopt it.

Roos' beloved idol Phil Jackson had Michael Jordan running lines then shooting 100 free throws at one end of a practice court whilst Stacey King did the same at the other end, Jordan was Jordan and at that stage King was fortunate to get on the court, but they both made a mistake and there was a team rule against it.

[giant]

Last year or last week?

I think Davis was a little stiff last week but to compare him and Goodes is nonsense. When did Goodes last finish outside the top 10 in the B&F? He has won twice (together with two AAs and two Brownlows). Davis, on the other hand, has yet to trouble the top 10 counters in the B&F.

But everyone knows he should have won 2 brownlows by now. That's the next best thing to winning them.

[Bas]

Nick has told the Club that his passion is to watch the colour of leaves change in autumn. The Club is helping him out by sending him to Canberra on weekends to watch the progress.

Oh, how nice...........

[Plugger46]

Last year or last week?

I think Davis was a little stiff last week but to compare him and Goodes is nonsense. When did Goodes last finish outside the top 10 in the B&F? He has won twice (together with two AAs and two Brownlows). Davis, on the other hand, has yet to trouble the top 10 counters in the B&F.

And even when Goodes is having an ordinary game, he still gets the attention of a full-time tagger, whereas Davis, for all his skill, is frequently targetted as a player his opponent can run off and create.

A little stiff?

In my opinion, you put fair too much emphasis on B&F finishes. We know what Davis is - an opportunist who is hot and cold. That sort of game is never going to attract B&F votes, so I think that's a pretty unfair statement. He is a genuine matchwinner on his day, and I reckon you need one or two of those types in your side.

[NMWBloods]

Last year or last week?

I think Davis was a little stiff last week but to compare him and Goodes is nonsense. When did Goodes last finish outside the top 10 in the B&F? He has won twice (together with two AAs and two Brownlows). Davis, on the other hand, has yet to trouble the top 10 counters in the B&F.

And even when Goodes is having an ordinary game, he still gets the attention of a full-time tagger, whereas Davis, for all his skill, is frequently targetted as a player his opponent can run off and create.

It was simply an observation that Roos attributed the same problem to each of them and applied different solutions. As has been observed before different players can be treated differently for similar issues.

[swansrule100]

i know making him and emergency is kind of pointless, but if the swans selection committee is saying davis isnt even in our best 25 then im a monkeys uncle

[liz]

A little stiff?

In my opinion, you put fair too much emphasis on B&F finishes. We know what Davis is - an opportunist who is hot and cold. That sort of game is never going to attract B&F votes, so I think that's a pretty unfair statement. He is a genuine matchwinner on his day, and I reckon you need one or two of those types in your side.

I think that is rubbish. I'd be surprised if the coaches don't rate the players according to how successfully they fulfill the role they are asked to. I doubt they simply do as the SMH seems to and just look at who got the most possessions.

There is no reason why Davis shouldn't achieve decently in the B&F if he did every week what he is asked to. No-one is expecting him to emulate the feats of Goodes. But I'm darned sure Goodes has far far more credits left, even if his ordinary games were down at the level of Davis' ordinary games.

[DST]

A little stiff?

In my opinion, you put fair too much emphasis on B&F finishes. We know what Davis is - an opportunist who is hot and cold. That sort of game is never going to attract B&F votes, so I think that's a pretty unfair statement. He is a genuine matchwinner on his day, and I reckon you need one or two of those types in your side.

Don't agree, not enough emphasis is placed on B&F's as this is an award being handed out by your employer and bosses who are in a far more better position to judge whether you are doing what they want you to do rather than an umpire who is trying to ajudicate the game and some hack journalist reading off the stats sheet.

Other awards that should be promoted more are the coaches awards and the AFLPA best player voted by their peers.

DST

[Reggi]

To much emphasis on BF i.e. performance

Davis is a clown, career is finished, should have been delisted probably,but will not play much more

Comparing to Goodes ........... Some people way over rate Davis, 90% of those people post on this board

[stellation]

The comparisons to Goodes are to highlight there are different rules for different players. I see no issue with people making that comparison at all.

[goswannie14]

The comparisons to Goodes are to highlight there are different rules for different players. I see no issue with people making that comparison at all.

I agree, in this discussion those comparisons are perfectly valid.

[alison.z]

Does anyone know why the game is being broadcast "live" in to Sydney at 8pm?
I think it is a 6.10 start time at the GABBA but how does that translate to 8.00 sydney time???