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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #91
    Originally posted by swansrule100
    show me the embarrasment

    He compares reasonably well except we keep dropping him the other teams dont drop their players
    So you wouldn't swap him for any of those players? The only issue at the end of the season is whether any AFL club would take him in a swap at his age. Probably not. Maybe Port Melbourne might where he could peel off a few lazy goals every week.
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    • stellation
      scott names the planets
      • Sep 2003
      • 9723

      #92
      Were you at the game connolly or did you watch it on television?
      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #93
        Originally posted by connolly
        Just what adaptability does he give us? Too slow to rove, he has the lowest ratio of con. possessions to unco's so is useless inside a pack and is not a strong over head mark.
        Looking at last year's stats, as a ratio of CP to total possessions, Davis was ahead of Ablett, Schmidt, Schneider, Kennelly, Buchanan, McVeigh, Dempster, C Bolton, Barry, Bevan, Mathews, Fosdike, Malceski and others.

        In terms of clearances per game Davis was ahead of Schmidt, Mathews, O'Keefe, Kennelly, Malceski, C Bolton, Bevan, Dempster, O'Loughlin, and others.

        In terms of contested marks per game Davis was ahead of Barry, J Bolton, Ablett, Kennelly, Schneider, Malceski, Bevan, Dempster, Kirk, Buchanan, McVeigh, Mathews, Fosdike, and others, and equal with C Bolton.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • Snake
          On the Rookie List
          • Mar 2007
          • 330

          #94
          Originally posted by connolly
          See above or bring in Jesse White as a big forward/ ruck. Give the kids a go.
          Maybe bring him in against the demons, but other than that more development, he aint exactly setting the world on fire in the ressies.

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          • hammo
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2003
            • 5554

            #95
            Originally posted by connolly
            ]]he has the lowest ratio of con. possessions to unco's so is useless inside a pack
            Davis had more contested possessions than Bevan on Saturday!
            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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            • connolly
              Registered User
              • Aug 2005
              • 2461

              #96
              Originally posted by Robbo
              Bevo can join Davo at the tip
              Do you have bacon with that egg sir?
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              • connolly
                Registered User
                • Aug 2005
                • 2461

                #97
                Originally posted by hammo
                Davis had more contested possessions than Bevan on Saturday!
                You miss the point. His career ratio is one to three. Bevan's is two to one. So why do you reckon why an experienced small was not thrown into the cauldron to help the tiring young mids in the last quarter? (Its rhetorical so heres the answer) Because Davis is too slow, unfit and lacks the ticker to mix it in the midfield. He was a passenger on Saturday in a team of goers. He had the opportunity to make an impact, stand up when we needed it. He didn't and thats all there is folks.
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                • connolly
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 2461

                  #98
                  Originally posted by stellation
                  Were you at the game connolly or did you watch it on television?
                  TV
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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #99
                    Originally posted by connolly
                    You miss the point. His career ratio is one to three. Bevan's is two to one.
                    Source?
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • connolly
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2461

                      Originally posted by NMWBloods
                      Looking at last year's stats, as a ratio of CP to total possessions, Davis was ahead of Ablett, Schmidt, Schneider, Kennelly, Buchanan, McVeigh, Dempster, C Bolton, Barry, Bevan, Mathews, Fosdike, Malceski and others.

                      In terms of clearances per game Davis was ahead of Schmidt, Mathews, O'Keefe, Kennelly, Malceski, C Bolton, Bevan, Dempster, O'Loughlin, and others.

                      In terms of contested marks per game Davis was ahead of Barry, J Bolton, Ablett, Kennelly, Schneider, Malceski, Bevan, Dempster, Kirk, Buchanan, McVeigh, Mathews, Fosdike, and others, and equal with C Bolton.
                      Its not a valid comparison to compare contested markes etc between forwards and backs. You can trot out as many stats as you like he is as soft as butter.
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                      • swantastic
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7275

                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        Looking at last year's stats, as a ratio of CP to total possessions, Davis was ahead of Ablett, Schmidt, Schneider, Kennelly, Buchanan, McVeigh, Dempster, C Bolton, Barry, Bevan, Mathews, Fosdike, Malceski and others.

                        In terms of clearances per game Davis was ahead of Schmidt, Mathews, O'Keefe, Kennelly, Malceski, C Bolton, Bevan, Dempster, O'Loughlin, and others.

                        In terms of contested marks per game Davis was ahead of Barry, J Bolton, Ablett, Kennelly, Schneider, Malceski, Bevan, Dempster, Kirk, Buchanan, McVeigh, Mathews, Fosdike, and others, and equal with C Bolton.
                        So what are you saying?.....just remember stats dont the whole story.
                        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                        • Plugger46
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 3674

                          Originally posted by connolly
                          Its not a valid comparison to compare contested markes etc between forwards and backs. You can trot out as many stats as you like he is as soft as butter.
                          No, it's just that you're not interested in any stat that portrays Davis in a decent light.
                          Bloods

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            Originally posted by connolly
                            Its not a valid comparison to compare contested markes etc between forwards and backs. You can trot out as many stats as you like he is as soft as butter.
                            I can trot plenty of stats disproving your comments but you'll continue to ignore them and make the same unsubstantiated claims.

                            You didn't comment on his higher contested possession ratio or clearances than all those other players.

                            Who is he behind in contested marks? No one under 190cm.
                            Of the 25 players with >6 games for last year, Davis is equal 9th in contested marks, behind Hall, Everitt, Goodes, O'Keefe, Jolly, O'Loughlin, Richards, Grundy, LRT. (He's 7th this year).
                            Last edited by NMWBloods; 21 April 2008, 04:14 PM.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9723

                              Originally posted by connolly
                              TV
                              How could you tell his work rate then? He looked to be putting in effort when in picture on my television. Do you have a special feed for flicking between Bevan and Davis exclusively?
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • Impartial judge
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 7

                                Originally posted by Plugger46
                                No, it's just that you're not interested in any stat that portrays Davis in a decent light.
                                It is a bit harsh to blame a loss to the current premiers at their home ground on a player returning for his first game of senior footy. Near as i can tell Davis did enough to be picked again and was far from the worst player on the field. There were other fwd's in the team that failed to score a goal at all.

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