Will Davis be selected for Rd 7 Vs Doggies??

[NMWBloods]

I also don't like Paul Roos

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I'll admit I'm not a Roos fan

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your immense dislike

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wish your buddies ROK and Bloods could say the same.

As I've said before, I don't hate or even dislike Roos. He was one of my favourite players. I find a few aspects of his coaching frustrating - some of his doubletalk and selection policies, and most particularly the style of his game plan.

Amazing how much you know in 2 days...

[ROK Lobster]

So you admit that you just don't like Paul Roos and will use the Nick Davis saga in a way to push your immense dislike? Fine i now understand where you are coming from..wish your buddies ROK and Bloods could say the same.

Meh still on your own - well with the company of about 3.

I liked Nick before I disliked Roos. Maybe if he changed his name I might not recognise him and then I would like him, but that sort of thing hasn't happened in the past.

[BloodNut]

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As I've said before, I don't hate or even dislike Roos. He was one of my favourite players. I find a few aspects of his coaching frustrating - some of his doubletalk and selection policies, and most particularly the style of his game plan.

Amazing how much you know in 2 days...

You don't hate Roos but you dislike everything he has brought to the club.

you have a brilliant way of spinning things BLOODS i give you credit for that. A great spin merchant that would even leave Warnie blushing.

Need a job writing copy for the agency i work at? We are looking for a good copy writer.

[stellation]

May i ask why?

Dodgy haircut

He was a premiership coach, and was as close as you can possibly get (without actually getting it!) to being a dual one and I do respect him for that, but he honestly just reminds me of a hell of a lot of people I see in the workplace, the folks who don't do a lot themselves but get a lot of credit for it- it's just that he plies his trade in a field where people devote more passion so their appreciation of fiscal benefits is turned into hero worship of the emotional benefits of your sporting team doing well.

He was acknowledged as bringing about a premiership through player empowerment, accountability and the Bloods code; realistically he attended a training course (a couple actually) in the States that the club paid for run by Phil Jackson (Paul is a big basketball fan and worships Phil Jackson), came back and said "his ideas are good ideas"- wasn't the Bloods code even developed further through bringing in an external consultant?

He reminds me of an upper management person in a big company that fumbles their way through a career and receives accolades on the way. There are a parallels there, or at least I believe there are...

• Being promoted from within the same department when the last person got the sack
• "turning things around after the last guy" when you could argue that as a middle manager in that department he was just as much to blame for the state of affairs as the departmental head was
• Going off on a work funded junket to training/conferences as a fact finding mission
• Coming back and championing the ideas from the training
• Convincing the people holding the purse strings to get in an external consultant to apply those ideas internally

[NMWBloods]

You don't hate Roos but you dislike everything he has brought to the club.

Ah, the extreme knee-jerk response cited as fact...

[swansrule100]

i like roos but that doesnt mean i have to always like what he does or says

[ScottH]

AFAIK Stella, He spent at least 12 months in the states, and spent time at various sporting institutes (not just b/ball) learning how they do things.

Getting credit for others doings? A key to good management is to have good people around you that you can trust and empower to tackle certain tasks/issues for you. Likening him to a corporate bigwig may not be far from the truth, but delving out responsibility is not a bad thing.

Some of the best managers I've had, have been the ones who don't do a lot of the decision making, they give the power to the people or group under him.

As for his double speak. Meh, coaches only tell the media/public what they want them to hear. We will never know what coaches really mean when they say things, we can only read between the lines, which is not always going to be correct.
Some people read far too much into what others say.

[BloodNut]

Dodgy haircut

He was a premiership coach, and was as close as you can possibly get (without actually getting it!) to being a dual one and I do respect him for that, but he honestly just reminds me of a hell of a lot of people I see in the workplace, the folks who don't do a lot themselves but get a lot of credit for it- it's just that he plies his trade in a field where people devote more passion so their appreciation of fiscal benefits is turned into hero worship of the emotional benefits of your sporting team doing well.

He was acknowledged as bringing about a premiership through player empowerment, accountability and the Bloods code; realistically he attended a training course (a couple actually) in the States that the club paid for run by Phil Jackson (Paul is a big basketball fan and worships Phil Jackson), came back and said "his ideas are good ideas"- wasn't the Bloods code even developed further through bringing in an external consultant?

He reminds me of an upper management person in a big company that fumbles their way through a career and receives accolades on the way. There are a parallels there, or at least I believe there are...

• Being promoted from within the same department when the last person got the sack
• "turning things around after the last guy" when you could argue that as a middle manager in that department he was just as much to blame for the state of affairs as the departmental head was
• Going off on a work funded junket to training/conferences as a fact finding mission
• Coming back and championing the ideas from the training
• Convincing the people holding the purse strings to get in an external consultant to apply those ideas internally

And you have come up with this by following him through the media and not having the privvy of being there during the week? I mean thats just mass generalisations and based on Paul Roos the media personality. have you ever had an intimate chat with Roos or even sat in for a day or week to observe what he does?

Well there are 22 players each week who don't share the same thoughts as you do, yet they have to deal with the man on a daily basis. Actually make that 21 players.

[ROK Lobster]

And you have come up with this by following him through the media and not having the privvy of being there during the week? I mean thats just mass generalisations and based on Paul Roos the media personality. have you ever had an intimate chat with Roos or even sat in for a day or week to observe what he does?

Well there are 22 players each week who don't share the same thoughts as you do, yet they have to deal with the man on a daily basis. Actually make that 21 players.

I think Terry Wallace is a better coach, and probably Malcolm Blight.

[stellation]

And you have come up with this by following him through the media and not having the privvy of being there during the week? I mean thats just mass generalisations and based on Paul Roos the media personality. have you ever had an intimate chat with Roos or even sat in for a day or week to observe what he does?

It's certainly a generalization that he is a bumbling fool, and I imagine that isn't completely the case, and suggesting he just stole someone else's ideas is probably as much an overstatement as saying that Nick Davis never tries. But check out some of Phil Jackson's works then listen to some of Roos' coaching philosophies... if you are going to emulate a master, he picked the right master to emulate.

Well there are 22 players each week who don't share the same thoughts as you do, yet they have to deal with the man on a daily basis. Actually make that 21 players.

I'm sure it will be 22 this week

[stellation]

AFAIK Stella, He spent at least 12 months in the states, and spent time at various sporting institutes (not just b/ball) learning how they do things.

Yep, but that was following his retirement. I'm talking about during his employment as a coach at Sydney.

Getting credit for others doings? A key to good management is to have good people around you that you can trust and empower to tackle certain tasks/issues for you. Likening him to a corporate bigwig may not be far from the truth, but delving out responsibility is not a bad thing.

Some of the best managers I've had, have been the ones who don't do a lot of the decision making, they give the power to the people or group under him.

As for his double speak. Meh, coaches only tell the media/public what they want them to hear. We will never know what coaches really mean when they say things, we can only read between the lines, which is not always going to be correct.
Some people read far too much into what others say.

I agree that delegation can be a very effective method of management, but I'm not sure that I'd call someone a genius just because he defers everything to the smarter guys

[BloodNut]

I think Terry Wallace is a better coach, and probably Malcolm Blight.

Well go follow the mighty tigers. And yeah maybe we do need a bit of "pathetic pittman" from Roosy. Should boost the confidence of players knowing that their coach is ready to slag them as soon as they have a bad game.

Or maybe we could line up and wait for the opposition team every week..another great way of boosting players confidence. Yeah thats the way to coach.

[reigning premier]

I think Terry Wallace is a better coach, and probably Malcolm Blight.

Whoa there tiger...... Terry Wallace??? The excuse machin himself?

Next thing, you'll be citing Robert Walls as a misunderstood genius!

[ScottH]

Yep, but that was following his retirement. I'm talking about during his employment as a coach at Sydney.

I think the "retirement" was part of the master plan. Why else would he waste his time looking into other sports in detail while in "retirement".

I agree that delegation can be a very effective method of management, but I'm not sure that I'd call someone a genius just because he defers everything to the smarter guys

Only a few geniuses in the world, (and a few "geniuses" on RWO). Not many people I'd call genius either, especially a coach. More Chess masters, well some of them anyway.
It's not genius to delegate, it's a proven method as long as you have the right people around you.

[stellation]

Next thing, you'll be citing Robert Walls as a misunderstood genius!

If his genius has gone missing then we should give it a run in the ruck!