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  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    #31
    Originally posted by swansrule100
    i dont know what to make of it all, would be easier if i actually saw the reserves play first hand

    but id pick him this week ahead of playfair
    He (Davis) didn't do particularly well the last time we played the pies.
    If the coaching staff (who really have the last say) say that he's not ready, well, he's not ready.
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • SimonH
      Salt future's rising
      • Aug 2004
      • 1647

      #32
      Without Shane Ellen, Malcolm Blight might have been just another coach who could take sides to the grand final but could never secure the ultimate prize. Didn't give him a guarantee of a game for the next 5 years.

      Apart from Davis' unwillingness to move from Sydney, and many other clubs' unwillingness to take the chance, a further impediment to a Davis trade would be whether Sydney would get lumbered with paying part of his salary at the new club (as happened in, for example, the Nick Daffy trade as I understand it).

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        #33
        Originally posted by SimonH

        Apart from Davis' unwillingness to move from Sydney, and many other clubs' unwillingness to take the chance, a further impediment to a Davis trade would be whether Sydney would get lumbered with paying part of his salary at the new club (as happened in, for example, the Nick Daffy trade as I understand it).
        Melbourne is paying a fair chunk of Travis Johnstone's salary at the moment as well.

        Agree with Lobster's post. I can't see how Ireland's comments can possibly be construed as negative for Nick's future.
        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • ROK Lobster
          RWO Life Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 8658

          #34
          Originally posted by SimonH
          Without Shane Ellen, Malcolm Blight might have been just another coach who could take sides to the grand final but could never secure the ultimate prize. Didn't give him a guarantee of a game for the next 5 years.
          Just to clarify for everyone, my comment re the 2005 semi was tongue in cheek.

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          • pinoy
            On the Rookie List
            • Dec 2007
            • 33

            #35
            Why Playfair over Davis...

            1. He's big and very hard to out mark. Even if he doesn't mark the ball, he grounds the ball for our rovers.
            2. the guy can tackle and hustles and he also chases

            Playfair needs to work on his kicking and I think he'll be more of an assett to us. Right now we have a very well rounded forward line, let's leave it the way it is.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #36
              I wonder how Playfair will improve his kicking now if it looks like this after five seasons with Geelong?
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • pigatfullfoward
                On the Rookie List
                • Sep 2007
                • 23

                #37
                I think nick davis is great & would love to see him in the team, however he needs to get his act together quickly since Veszpremi is hopefully healing then i would imagine that that he would have less chance of regaining his spot with Vesz in the team

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9720

                  #38
                  Kicking is soooooooooo over rated for forwards anyway.

                  Not sure if this includes the weekends game, but Playfair is averaging 0.4 tackles per game whilst Davis is averaging 1.2 for the season. Interestingly Henry and Nick both have 4 tackles for this season with Henry having played the 7 games and Nick the 3... 3 of those tackles by Henry seem to have come from the 1 game, so for 5 out of 7 games he hasn't been credited with a tackle.

                  That said, I realize they play different roles in the forward line.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • Go Swannies
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5697

                    #39
                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                    I wonder how Playfair will improve his kicking now if it looks like this after five seasons with Geelong?
                    Simple. It's like set shot reverse limbo:

                    "Okay Henry, first we'll set the bar really low - you just have to kick set shots better than ROK or Jude. If you miss me in the coaches' box we'll take that as a plus. Then we raise the standard and you have to kick better than Baz or Magic on their off days. The ultimate goal is to kick set shots as well as Nicky D when he's on song."

                    He managed a bit of Magic with his goal yesterday. The ideal will be when he can run in while being chased and kick the way Willo could do.

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #40
                      Originally posted by stellation
                      Kicking is soooooooooo over rated for forwards anyway.

                      Not sure if this includes the weekends game, but Playfair is averaging 0.4 tackles per game whilst Davis is averaging 1.2 for the season. Interestingly Henry and Nick both have 4 tackles for this season with Henry having played the 7 games and Nick the 3... 3 of those tackles by Henry seem to have come from the 1 game, so for 5 out of 7 games he hasn't been credited with a tackle.

                      That said, I realize they play different roles in the forward line.
                      AFL is not about kicks or handballs or marks or goals or tackles... it's about... chasing, or at least appearing to be chasing without necessarily catching... it's about perception, it's about the Bloods and being liked and everyone likes Henry.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        #41
                        Who paid for the coffees?
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #42
                          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                          Who paid for the coffees?
                          No one - they did a runner. Ireland yelled out "chase me" and took off. I think it was a new test for Davis.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9720

                            #43
                            Originally posted by NMWBloods
                            No one - they did a runner. Ireland yelled out "chase me" and took off. I think it was a new test for Davis.
                            Then Brett Kirk ran in and said "Fear not young coffee servant, I shall pick up their bill!", then smiled for the waiting cameras.
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9720

                              #44
                              Roosy: "ummm, yeah... ummmm.... I wasn't there, but, you know, I just... ummmm.... I don't think Davo was, you know.... commited... he, you know, says he's hungry... but... you know, I mean I didn't see it, but I hear... you know, at least they reckon, he said he's hungry then, you know... only ate half his banana bread... and, I mean... yeah.... we need better commitment... you know??"
                              Kirk: "I'm hungry! I'll eat it!"
                              Roosy: "Awwwww you're THE BEST, you know?!??!!?"
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • Plugger46
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 3674

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Go Swannies
                                Those saying they'd take Davis over Playfair don't accept that Playfair is our future and right now Davis is our past. How many of our recent wins would you be prepared to trade for the joy of seeing No 2 out on the field again? Personally, I wouldn't trade one - I like winning six in a row (and would love to see it become 7 . . then 8 . . .etc) but seeing a firing Davis producing magic for us again would be pure joy.
                                I wouldn't be prepared to trade any of them, but I'm in no doubt that we would've won the same amount of games with Davis in the side, and not Playfair.

                                People are forgetting that Playfair is 25! He's not a kid that we've got to work with. His kicking was woeful when he started 5 years ago. His kicking is still woeful now and it will still be in another 5 years. Where's he going to improve? Surely what he's doing at the moment, doesn't warrant a long-term spot.
                                Bloods

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