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  • Industrial Fan
    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
    • Aug 2006
    • 3317

    Originally posted by NMWBloods
    Yep - he is just echoing Malthouse's line. For such a 'bad guy' it's amazing how keen Collingwood was to keep him!!
    Swann was speaking on behalf of the Blues.

    Collingwood has a track record of keeping dickheads on the paddock because they know they can play football rather than discipline them. Any comments they would make about Davis certainly wouldn't reflect his capacity to play the game.
    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      Originally posted by connolly
      They have contracts. What Davis did (his manager is his agent and Davis is bound) is a breach of the implied terms ( and possibly the explicit terms) of his contract, unless there is an explicit term in his contract that allows his agent to negotiate with an opposition club without the club's knowledge. The Bloods should terminate Davis contract this week.
      I'm not sure where you studied contract law. That would be an unlikely express term. I would also be surprised if it could be implied. I would like to see a precedent - have you got one?

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        Originally posted by connolly
        Scott i don't think there is anything wrong with feelers but this was a touch up. Did he inform the club he was making enquiries? Did he tell the club he was talking to Carlton through his management? Its the duplicity of all this that rankles.
        Bloods already answered, but isn't it funny how when players contracts are up for negotiating there is always a lot of speculation about them wanting to go to another club, or "10 clubs have shown interest in player X".

        Managerial hoohaa.

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        • connolly
          Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 2461

          Originally posted by goswannie14
          You're on a fishing trip here. If you want to make accusations, at least back them up with facts. Not the bull@@@@ that you often post as fact.

          That is why so many people object to your posts, because you too often do that. You have no idea what is in the "year by year" contract the Davis and the club have. To make up what you think may be in it is just ridiculous.

          I'll give you a tip, if you actually posted facts about how Bevan plays instead of the fanciful stuff that you post here most of the time (one example is the tangled web you caught yourself up in with who Bevan was shifted onto or was shifted onto him yesterday), people would not argue with what you have to say. I have nothing against Bevan (most of the time), but I object to the way you try to inflate his deeds on the field so that they equate to the deeds of Lockett, Skilton, Kelly and Nash combined.
          The implied term of trust and confidence is an integral part of every employment contract in Australia. Davis has breached it in my opinion.

          Thanks for the tip. Your track record with rubbishing Bevan indicates you would have trouble tipping your hat.
          Bevo bandwagon driver

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          • AnnieH
            RWOs Black Sheep
            • Aug 2006
            • 11332

            Did anyone also note that when Roosey was asked about Nick Davis and his future at the swans at the after match press conference yesterday, Roosey more or less blamed Davo's manager for Davo not playing (prior to the injury).

            The plot thickens.
            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              Besides (from AFL.com) "The Four Points" ...

              Speaking on radio before his club?s clash with the Swans yesterday, the Blues chief ? who knows the enigmatic forward from the pair?s time at Collingwood ? ruled out the prospect of Davis joining Carlton next year.

              But, if one noticed his choice of words, he didn?t completely shut the door on Davis joining the Blues one day.

              ?Not in a million years,? Swann said when asked if the Blues were interested in Davis.

              But what about after that? By our calculations, that means Carlton might well be interested in the year 1002009.
              Geez, I hope I'm around to watch his big comeback.

              BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

              Sunday's paper in Sydney had him going over to the criminal budgies.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • Lucky Knickers
                Fandom of Fabulousness
                • Oct 2003
                • 4220

                Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                I'm pretty sure Hall supported St Kilda before he came to Sydney.
                Nope Dogs man - definitely not a real blood.

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  Originally posted by AnnieH
                  Did anyone also note that when Roosey was asked about Nick Davis and his future at the swans at the after match press conference yesterday, Roosey more or less blamed Davo's manager for Davo not playing (prior to the injury).
                  I wonder if Swans management have had a proper talk to Davis about his manager.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • connolly
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2461

                    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                    I'm not sure where you studied contract law. That would be an unlikely express term. I would also be surprised if it could be implied. I would like to see a precedent - have you got one?
                    I wonder about where i studied as well. Haven't got time to give you all the precedents but these will have to do. Perkins v Grace World Wide (Aust) Pty Ltd (1997) 72 IR 186 at 191 per Wilcox CJ, Marshall and North JJ; State of New South Wales v Paige [2002] NSWCA 235 (Unreported 19 July 2002) www.austlii.edu.com; Jozef Banas v State of New South Wales [2003] NSWIR Comm. 317
                    The implication of the term in Australian employment contracts survived the Howard attacks.
                    Bevo bandwagon driver

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9718

                      Originally posted by connolly
                      According to the Thommo media campaign Davis was committed to the club blah blah. Davis is a croc in more ways than one.
                      Surely contract commitment is a two way street? Davis may very well be committed to the club but as far as I know the club has not said they are committed to him.
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        Originally posted by connolly
                        I wonder about where i studied as well. Haven't got time to give you all the precedents but these will have to do. Perkins v Grace World Wide (Aust) Pty Ltd (1997) 72 IR 186 at 191 per Wilcox CJ, Marshall and North JJ; State of New South Wales v Paige [2002] NSWCA 235 (Unreported 19 July 2002) www.austlii.edu.com; Jozef Banas v State of New South Wales [2003] NSWIR Comm. 317
                        The implication of the term in Australian employment contracts survived the Howard attacks.
                        But what about the duty of care???
                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                        • goswannie14
                          Leadership Group
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 11166

                          Originally posted by goswannie14
                          I'll give you a tip, if you actually posted facts about how Bevan plays instead of the fanciful stuff that you post here most of the time (one example is the tangled web you caught yourself up in with who Bevan was shifted onto or was shifted onto him yesterday), people would not argue with what you have to say. I have nothing against Bevan (most of the time), but I object to the way you try to inflate his deeds on the field so that they equate to the deeds of Lockett, Skilton, Kelly and Nash combined.
                          Originally posted by connolly
                          The implied term of trust and confidence is an integral part of every employment contract in Australia. Davis has breached it in my opinion.
                          So everyone who has an employment contract and is looking what will happen after that contract expires is breaching their current contract? Interesting concept.

                          Thanks for the tip. Your track record with rubbishing Bevan indicates you would have trouble tipping your hat.
                          Good to see you read one sentence out of the paragraph. Try reading the rest of the paragraph and you have the answer about why I look more realistically at Bevan's form and talent than you do.
                          Does God believe in Atheists?

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Originally posted by goswannie14
                            So everyone who has an employment contract and is looking what will happen after that contract expires is breaching their current contract? Interesting concept.
                            Good to see you read one sentence out of the paragraph. Try reading the rest of the paragraph and you have the answer about why I look more realistically at Bevan's form and talent than you do.
                            My employment contract doesn't stop me from looking for another job, so long as I give the required notice that I'm leaving.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • goswannie14
                              Leadership Group
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 11166

                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              My employment contract doesn't stop me from looking for another job, so long as I give the required notice that I'm leaving.
                              Annie, stop clouding this discussion with facts!!!!!
                              Does God believe in Atheists?

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                              • Triple B
                                Formerly 'BBB'
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6999

                                Posted on June 23 when 'The Meeting' at McDonalds took place:

                                Originally posted by Triple B
                                For starters, Davis needs to get himself a manager with a clue.
                                Nothing's changed.
                                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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