No more Davis threads - out for season

[swansrule100]

As much as it saddens me, one thing is for sure. If he wasn't already gone, he certainly is now. He'll never play for Sydney again.

I'll always remember the PF in 2005 as one of the greatest games of football I've ever witnessed. His last quarter was probably the most impressive and most important individual performance by a Swans player in the history of the club and probably, one of the best ever in the history of the entire AFL.

Thanks Nick. And good luck.

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if i was nick id tell roosy to shove it and look elsewhere

[reigning premier]

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if i was nick id tell roosy to shove it and look elsewhere

I stand corrected.... Got confused because the actual PF was such a non event...

[ScottH]

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if i was nick id tell roosy to shove it and look elsewhere

I thought that was what the newspaper "scandal" was all about??

[Triple B]

I'll always remember the SF in 2005 as one of the greatest games of football I've ever witnessed......

It was a terrible game.

A sensational individual last quarter made it memorable, but for the first 3 quarters we were lamentable.

I remember being slumped in my seat at 3/4 time cursing the disgraceful umpiring decision the previous week against Leo that put us in the position of having to travel back to Sydney and play an elimination SF when we should have been resting up waiting for a home prelim. It all seemed so unfair that we were going to go out in straights sets on the back of shocking umpiring at Subi.

[reigning premier]

It was a terrible game.

A sensational individual last quarter made it memorable, but for the first 3 quarters we were lamentable.

I remember being slumped in my seat at 3/4 time cursing the disgraceful umpiring decision the previous week against Leo that put us in the position of having to travel back to Sydney and play an elimination SF when we should have been resting up waiting for a home prelim. It all seemed so unfair that we were going to go out in straights sets on the back of shocking umpiring at Subi.

Oh... You one of those it has to be a 50 goal shoot out to be a good game people?

To win and win in such a sensational manner made it a great game. If you didn't walk out from that game on top of the world knowing you had just seen a miracle and a piece of Swans history, then = NARF.

But each to their own.

[Triple B]

Oh... You one of those it has to be a 50 goal shoot out to be a good game people?

Absolutely not, leave that type of thinking [Mod edit : text removed]

But, it WAS a terrible game.

Of course I walked out on top of the world, mainly because we had escaped from jail despite playing like crap for 75% of the match and we were still alive.

I think it was a terrible match with a great result, you think it was a great game. Fair enough, as you say, each to their own.

[connolly]

Absolutely not, leave that type of thinking [Mod edit : text removed]

But, it WAS a terrible game.

Of course I walked out on top of the world, mainly because we had escaped from jail despite playing like crap for 75% of the match and we were still alive.

I think it was a terrible match with a great result, you think it was a great game. Fair enough, as you say, each to their own.

Thats my recollection as well. The standard of football wasn't helped by a ground that resembled a south east asian paddy field, courtsey of that useless AFL grounds manager who ordered a tsyunami like drenching of the paddock and didn't tell Roosey.

[connolly]

Davo had a WHOLE PAGE of whinging in yesterday's Sydney Sun-Herald.

Didn't he describe himself as the Willie Mason of AFL? Actually its the Willie Nelson of AFL. He's on the road again.

[connolly]

My employment contract doesn't stop me from looking for another job, so long as I give the required notice that I'm leaving.

1. Your employer might have something to say about you actually tried to negotiate a contract with an opposition organization, without their knowledge.

2. The implied term of trust and confidence is in everyone's employment contract. Its an implied contractual term in law not fact.

3. This issue is about trust and honesty not looking for another job.

4. Davis has not acted openly and in an ethical way towards the club and he does not have their confidence. Which is kinda funny as he was dropped because he lacked confidence apparently.

[ROK Lobster]

1. Your employer might have something to say about you actually tried to negotiate a contract with an opposition organization, without their knowledge.

2. The implied term of trust and confidence is in everyone's employment contract. Its an implied contractual term in law not fact.

3. This issue is about trust and honesty not looking for another job.

It would only be an issue if you discussed "trade secrets" or confidential information. People have discussions with opposing organisations all the time, you clown. Stick to pumping Bevo's tyres. You are better at it and much more entertaining when you do.

[AnnieH]

1. Your employer might have something to say about you actually tried to negotiate a contract with an opposition organization, without their knowledge.

Are you serious?

Have you ever left a job?

Have you ever resigned from one company only to pop up working for an opposition company? (Ask an engineer about this.)

Have you ever had a job?

[connolly]

Soory, did not realise that you were just trolling.

My favourite bit of all this is your balls up of the poke at Howard. According to your argument an employee does not have a right to negotiate with a potential employer because of an implied obligation not to, and this was an element that survived Howard's workplace policies. Surely this, if such a thing existed, would be in the employer's favour? Why then did it need to survive Howard's policies?

1. Actually the implied term of trust and confidence has been used overwhelmingly by employees in compensation for breaches of contract by employers. See my reply to Annies post re. the right to negotiate contracts with other employers. Davis disn't tell the Bloods what he was doing, ie negotiating with an opposition club on the eve of a critical finals determining match. Its about the trust his employer has in his performance and loyalty to the club. These are integral to an employment contract.

2. The implied obligation is to act in the interests of the employer during the term of the contract. Did Davis do this by having a chat to Carlton before a big match and one that he may very well have been selected to play in? Would the Bloods given him permission to open contract negotiations mid-season in the run up to a finals campaign? Roos had made it crystal clear that Davis was a required player before his injury. Meanwhile Davis is conducting backroom negotiations with our opponents. Its the deviousness that is the vice not looking for another job. It would have been a different situation entirely if we had released him from his contract or given permission. The last thing AFL needs is the ridiculous mid-season player market that exists in NRL. We should take a strong stand against players agents club shopping mid season.

3. Howard's IR laws virtually left untouched the common law principles of employment contract.

[humphrey bear]

Lets all just take Greg Swann's word on his character and move on.

[connolly]

Are you serious?

Have you ever left a job?

Have you ever resigned from one company only to pop up working for an opposition company? (Ask an engineer about this.)

Have you ever had a job?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

We are talking about conflict of interest. The analogy is between an engineer who negotiates secretly for a job, whilst his present employer is engaged directly in a tendering process competition, with the employer the engineer is in secret talks. Trying running that one before a court.

[connolly]

It would only be an issue if you discussed "trade secrets" or confidential information. People have discussions with opposing organisations all the time, you clown. Stick to pumping Bevo's tyres. You are better at it and much more entertaining when you do.

Thats a bit rich coming from you.
You are wrong in regard to trust and confidence. If an employees conduct breaches an essential term of a contract it can be terminated.
Davis contract should be terminated. How did you go with the references?