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  • Bas
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4457

    #46
    Originally posted by cruiser
    Time to go fishing ....
    Where?
    In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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    • SassySwan
      Big Bad Bussling
      • Sep 2005
      • 62

      #47
      Originally posted by cruiser
      So the poor guy cops a season ending knee injury and the RWO mob wants to trade him? I thought it'd be bad on here this week. Time to go fishing ....
      Originally posted by Bas
      Where?
      With Andy Symonds??

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      • goswannie14
        Leadership Group
        • Sep 2005
        • 11166

        #48
        Originally posted by Captain
        Should trade O'Keefe + our first round pick for Kerr.
        Originally posted by goswannie14
        O'Keefe is worth more than Kerr on the trade table, your suggestion means we lose big time.
        Originally posted by Wazza
        how??
        Pretty self explanatory really. IMO O'Keefe is worth more than Kerr. Captain wants to trade ROK and a first round pick for Kerr. ROK worth more than Kerr, so we lose, plus a first rounder...we lose big time.
        Does God believe in Atheists?

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        • Captain
          Captain of the Side
          • Feb 2004
          • 3602

          #49
          Originally posted by goswannie14
          Pretty self explanatory really. IMO O'Keefe is worth more than Kerr. Captain wants to trade ROK and a first round pick for Kerr. ROK worth more than Kerr, so we lose, plus a first rounder...we lose big time.
          There is no way in this world that ROK is worth more then Kerr. Kerr is a guaranteed multi All Australian in a midfield position whilst ROK will always be around the edge for a HFF position in the AA team.

          Kerr could easily win a Brownlow, ROK will never make the Top 5 (would love to be proven wrong on this).

          Kerr is faster. He is a better kick. He gets more of the ball. He is more consistent. He is a genuine superstar.

          Oh and the umpires love him

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16738

            #50
            Originally posted by Captain
            There is no way in this world that ROK is worth more then Kerr. Kerr is a guaranteed multi All Australian in a midfield position whilst ROK will always be around the edge for a HFF position in the AA team.

            Kerr could easily win a Brownlow, ROK will never make the Top 5 (would love to be proven wrong on this).

            Kerr is faster. He is a better kick. He gets more of the ball. He is more consistent. He is a genuine superstar.

            Oh and the umpires love him

            I suspect that most clubs would be prepared to part with slightly more for Kerr than for O'Keefe - mostly due to that couple of years difference in age.

            But some of your observations are plain wrong. Kerr is not a guaranteed multi-AA. I'm pretty sure he's only made the team once, which is the same as ROK.

            Kerr is quicker. Not convinced he's a better kick. He gets more of the ball because of the position he plays in and WC's generally higher possession style. More consistent? I doubt it. For a start ROK (almost) never misses a game. It took meningitis to keep him out of the team for the first time in over 6 years. He doesn't get himself into petty trouble with the tribunal, nor is he injury prone. Even comparing on ground performances, Kerr is far from consistent. His good games are very very good but he's frequently kept quiet by a tagger or just apparent sluggishness. He only played two or three games this year that might be described as very good. Compare that to ROK who played at least half a dozen. Sure, he was carrying a foot injury but that's part of the point if you're judging on actual output.

            I am yet to be convinced that Kerr is a genuine top-line midfielder in his own right, rather than someone who is very good but made to look elite because he lined up alongside Judd and Cousins for so many games. This year did nothing to really answer that question as it is hard to know for how long the leg injury was troubling him. But I suspect WC might have a suspicion that he's not as good as he looked pre-2008 - which is why they're probably more than happy to offload him now.

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            • Captain
              Captain of the Side
              • Feb 2004
              • 3602

              #51
              I'm not making my comparison on 1 year, particularly when Kerr was injured for most of it.

              My point was that Kerr is more consistent as a player. As a person I think he is a bit of a tool and agree his tribunal record etc has been bad. So was Plugger's, so was Hall's.

              You seem to be personally biased by not admitting he is a top line midfielder. That is plain wrong.

              You failed to mention the Brownlow comparison.

              Also there is nothing to suggest West Coast don't want to keep him. They have a policy of no deals over 3 years and everyone needs to follow that.

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              • caj23
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2003
                • 2462

                #52
                Originally posted by liz
                I am yet to be convinced that Kerr is a genuine top-line midfielder in his own right, rather than someone who is very good but made to look elite because he lined up alongside Judd and Cousins for so many games. This year did nothing to really answer that question as it is hard to know for how long the leg injury was troubling him. But I suspect WC might have a suspicion that he's not as good as he looked pre-2008 - which is why they're probably more than happy to offload him now.
                Sorry Liz but that is plain wrong. Kerr is a star who averaged 24 possessions a game in 2008 while playing injured in a rubbish team without Cousins or Judd.

                Would love to have him at the Swans but wouldn't trade O'Keefe. I doubt we have the currency (that we would be willing to part with) to satisfy West Coast's wants. I'm also against topping up as i dont think its sustainable in the long term

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                • Lohengrin
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 641

                  #53
                  Not to mention how awesome Kerr was last year when Judd was on one leg.

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                  • waterfowl
                    Pumping the footy
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 129

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Plugger46
                    Most in the thread want to keep him.
                    Like him a lot - great potential - best curved ball goal of the season against Port (I think).

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                    • snappy
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 23

                      #55
                      Originally posted by 2005
                      Port Adelaide is the club that are keen on him.
                      This is from the Age today. I know nothing about him but was a 1st rounder, is young and rated by his club. Thoughts?

                      PORT ADELAIDE midfielder Adam Thomson has told the Power he wants to be traded, most likely to Victoria, and several clubs are interested in the uncontracted former first-round draft pick.

                      After managing only seven games in Port?s horrid year, Thomson, taken with pick 11 in the 2004 national draft, has said he wants out.

                      ??We are pretty disappointed because we have put a fair bit of work into him since taking him as a firstround draft pick,?? Port football manager Peter Rohde said.

                      ??We have rated him but he just hasn?t been able to get much of a go because, even though we did not win a lot of games this year, our midfield has actually been quite strong, with (Steven) Salopek and (Travis) Boak having really good years and then the Burgoynes (Peter and Shaun). He has not been delisted. He has asked to be traded and I would imagine he will get a contract again with us if a trade does not work out.

                      ??We would be reluctant to lose him but he is out of contract and wants a trade, so we are not in a strong position to do much about it.??

                      Rohde said discussions would be held with several clubs later in the week.

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                      • reigning premier
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4335

                        #56
                        Keep Schmidt. Has shown enough to warrant remaining on the list.

                        Mind you, if he was involved in a deal to get either Lovett or Kerr here, I'd trade him quicker than Annie downs a scotch....

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                        • caj23
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2462

                          #57
                          Originally posted by snappy
                          This is from the Age today. I know nothing about him but was a 1st rounder, is young and rated by his club. Thoughts?

                          PORT ADELAIDE midfielder Adam Thomson has told the Power he wants to be traded, most likely to Victoria, and several clubs are interested in the uncontracted former first-round draft pick.

                          After managing only seven games in Port?s horrid year, Thomson, taken with pick 11 in the 2004 national draft, has said he wants out.
                          .
                          I admit I havent seen a great deal of him, but you have to ask how much they really rate him to only manage 7 games in a rabble

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                          • snappy
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 23

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Will Sangster
                            I admit I havent seen a great deal of him, but you have to ask how much they really rate him to only manage 7 games in a rabble
                            Obvious question isnt it, tough they did say they had a very settled midfield.
                            Could do a straight swap, with any of our fringe S.A boys, if its worth it?

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                            • TheGong
                              Pushing for Selection
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 58

                              #59
                              Originally posted by snappy
                              Obvious question isnt it, tough they did say they had a very settled midfield.
                              Could do a straight swap, with any of our fringe S.A boys, if its worth it?
                              Thomson is also an inside midfielder. If we are going to trade Schmidt I would prefer if it was for an outside midfielder or a fringe key position player.

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                              • Wazza
                                Regular in the Side
                                • May 2004
                                • 805

                                #60
                                Originally posted by goswannie14
                                Pretty self explanatory really. IMO O'Keefe is worth more than Kerr. Captain wants to trade ROK and a first round pick for Kerr. ROK worth more than Kerr, so we lose, plus a first rounder...we lose big time.
                                We pick up one of the best Midfielders in the comp who probably has another 100+ games left in him and lose ROK who is at his peak but wont get any better and given the role he plays will probably begin to have some injuries. IMHO he doesnt have as much influence in a game i.e is a great contributor but is not a game breaker .

                                Only my HO but I respect what you are saying he is a great player but we could build an awesome midfield around Kerr.

                                Cheers

                                Waz

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