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28 September 2008, 08:18 PM

Nah I have lovett's though?
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28 September 2008, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Guzzitza

2. They may enhance performance, in the case of Ketmaine this is highly unlikely
3. Ketamine isnt a stimulant. So that is just false and shows you have NFI what your talking about.
4. You are also naive in believing that because there is no tape, no Swan has ever been involved with such things.
5. Rehabilitation in the fact that he hasnt had a positive drugs test after coming under extreme scrutiny over the last year perhaps? No other off-field incidents perhaps?
6. No apology is needed. You are not being accused of saying it is ok to bash women, just that if you had to choose you'd rather have a wife beater than a young guy who has been caught using drugs.

Oh, and something that really is annoying me, its hypocrisy, not hypocracy. Hypocracy is the term used for a government in which the politicians are liars.

2. Highly unlikely - based on what??
3. Ketamine gives an energy rush. Check the scientific literature.
4. Totally irrelevant
5. Kerr has never had a positive test. The AFL testing regime is a joke. The Ketamine link to Kerr came from police tapes. Try to stay awake.
6. Kerr has not been "caught"using drugs. There is a taped admission of him using drugs. I would not rather have a wife beater. The point i was making was that drug abuse threatens the integrity of the sport. Off field violence does not.
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28 September 2008, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Will Sangster

huh

The drug culture has a lot to answer for.

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28 September 2008, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by cruiser

You have obviously never used ketamine and you demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about in regard to this drug. Your statements about people who use drugs and ketamine are absurdly naive and ignorant.

Does it show? No I have never used a date rape drug. Nor one to induce an out of body experience. Is that something that should be worthy of disdain? Is Ketamine the pathway to enlightment and learning? Do we have to use ice, heroin or cocaine to be able to take a position of these dangerous drugs? What are you on as a matter of interest?

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29 September 2008, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Mattyt

To be honest mate, if you're relying on footballers as a central role model in your life, or as an example that you would like your kids to follow, then sorry, but you really need to get a life.

My central role model has been Che Guevara for some years. Although he did play five eight rugby in Argentina i admire him for his off field exploits.The point i was making was that i don't like drug taking wankers on sporting fields or footy discussion boards.

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29 September 2008, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by connolly

3. Ketamine gives an energy rush. Check the scientific literature.

perhaps you can point us to the authoritative primary sources you have read. from what i read it is an anaesthetic that affects your depth perception. i don't care how fast it makes you run, it really doesn't sound like it would help you lift your game generally.

ketamine has a long history of legitimate use in human and veterinary medicine and is also regularly discussed in popular literature. it's not necessary to attack people who have knowledge by implying they are "drug taking wankers".

and i'll take accurate pedantry regarding the precision of language over bullish straw-man sanctimony anyday.

then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know
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29 September 2008, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by connolly

3. Ketamine gives an energy rush. Check the scientific literature.

It's a tranquiliser - it reduces performance.

Amazing that you can argue at the same time that it is a date-rape drug and a performance-enhancing drug!!
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29 September 2008, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by connolly

My central role model has been Che Guevara for some years.

An obsessive, idealistic fool... says a lot...
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29 September 2008, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by connolly

Is that something that should be worthy of disdain? Do we have to use ice, heroin or cocaine to be able to take a position of these dangerous drugs? What are you on as a matter of interest?

Taking a position is one thing. Stating supposed facts that are completely wrong is quite something else. That is what earns my disdain. I dont need to be 'on' anything to be aware of how foolish and ignorant some of your comments are.

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29 September 2008, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by connolly

2. Highly unlikely - based on what??
3. Ketamine gives an energy rush. Check the scientific literature.
4. Totally irrelevant
5. Kerr has never had a positive test. The AFL testing regime is a joke. The Ketamine link to Kerr came from police tapes. Try to stay awake.
6. Kerr has not been "caught"using drugs. There is a taped admission of him using drugs. I would not rather have a wife beater. The point i was making was that drug abuse threatens the integrity of the sport. Off field violence does not.
When pedantry hits a thread it really is time to get Mum to tuck you into the cot.

Sigh..

Ketamine does not give you an energy rush. It is an anaesthetic. It disconnects mind from body making the user unable to function physically. I have checked the scientific literature, I studied the the effects of drugs extensively as part of my psychology degree - so yes, I do know.

You dont have to have used drugs to comment about them, but perhaps you should listen to those who have experienced it first hand, rather than writing off their opinion.

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29 September 2008, 10:35 AM

Why would you use Ketamine for date rape when easier options are available over the counter?

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29 September 2008, 12:36 PM

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Why would you use Ketamine for date rape when easier options are available over the counter?

When you have your eye on the donk?

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29 September 2008, 12:57 PM

Please all take a rohypnol and lye down.
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29 September 2008, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Lucky Knickers

When you have your eye on the donk?
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29 September 2008, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Lohengrin

It's a tranquiliser - it reduces performance.

Amazing that you can argue at the same time that it is a date-rape drug and a performance-enhancing drug!!

I've stayed out of this argument as I have absolutely no idea about Ketamine or drugs in general, however I do know from first hand experience that the above argument has been proven wrong.

Etorphine (Elephant Juice) was a tranquiliser so powerful it could knock out an elephant in no time.

In the 80's they soon discovered that by injecting miniscule quantities into a horse it would be ready to run through brick walls and when it fell on it's arse trying, it would get up and try to run through it again. It never made horses run faster, but they could run at their top speed for much longer.

And the miniscule quantities I am talking about.....remove a quantity of Etorphine into a syringe, then push it back in the bottle again. With the few drops that were left inside the needle, mix with coforta or similar injectable substance and inject direct into the neck muscle. If you tried injecting directly in the vein, the horse would be knocked out cold.

Maybe connolly has read of evidence that Ketamine in small quantities has a similar effect on humans.

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