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  • 10Totti10
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2009
    • 443

    #31
    Originally posted by Bas
    Liz, perhaps we can start our own RWO Master Chef during the off season?

    Create and name your most favourite footy recipe, inspired by your most favourite Swan. The Esky would be candidate for a few limp salad recipes at the moment. Perhaps a collapsed souffle!

    Barry Hall inspired Hot Chile Tortillas - It's a knockout!
    Do u mean Chile the country or Chili.

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    • The Big Cat
      On the veteran's list
      • Apr 2006
      • 2363

      #32
      I think Roos and Healy talk a lot on the phone so he may be expressing the club's optimism, which is heartening.
      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #33
        Well goodness me. Our list is in turmoil! Should we notify the footy department? Do you think they know? Because Melbourne media obviously have the good mail on this and we don't.....pa thet ic.
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • Lohengrin
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          • Jul 2008
          • 641

          #34
          Originally posted by Primmy
          Well goodness me. Our list is in turmoil! Should we notify the footy department? Do you think they know? Because Melbourne media obviously have the good mail on this and we don't.....pa thet ic.
          What is this post meant to mean?

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          • Lohengrin
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            • Jul 2008
            • 641

            #35
            I've finally watched the show and some of the comments in this threads are a bit strange.

            Originally posted by smasher
            I watched it also and was pleased to hear GH reel off the names of our future.No comments from Sheehan or Sir James but as Healy said "only Swans fans in Sydney"would know of them."
            Actually it was MS who made both of those comments.

            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
            It felt to me that they had asked the swans to provide (or the swans themsleves had provided) a list of names of their future talent. While Healy is one of the few in the media to have some idea of the swans game, players etc, it seemed to me that while he had a list of names the comments went no further than an acknowledgement that Sydney themselves think they have a bunch of talented youngsters.

            Even Healy wasnt able to give comment on whether he thought they were talented. As for Sheahan and Hird , they didnt have a clue, nor do I think they care.
            Originally posted by SwansFan1972
            The only reason the Swans were mentioned at the top of the OTC run sheet was so Hirdy could delight in how well his Dons were going - talk turned to them within 30 seconds of the game being raised (the Dons are ahead of where he thought they'd be etc).

            Gerard (as usual) provides most insight into Swans, but even his talk last night was pretty thin - "we need a key forward". Well, knock us over with another feather! What a scoop! Do ya reckon - we need a key forward - really?!?! Who knew? Agree with him 100% about Roughhead though.

            The (little) talk through the show about the Swans was superficial (as usual) and included a "highlights" run of our missed goals on the weekend. Gee - thanks sooo much for that Fox! Just what we needed to see!
            These comments simply aren't true and are misleading.

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            • sharp9
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2508

              #36
              Simon...your point about us having played youth "but no one noticed" is actually as bad as it is good.....

              Not one of our young players has actually done much to get noticed.....Jack has had a couple of good games....IN TWO YEARS.....Moore etc...have done some good thing s from time to time.....Vez is the only clear ready to go quality at the moment.

              Other clubs, especially Collingwood, Melbourne and Brisbane, play new young players and they almost always have real impact often straight away.

              One day Nick Smith might (realistically) be a good player and Bird might (realistically) be a game winner....but there's no way to tell at the moment
              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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              • Lohengrin
                On the Rookie List
                • Jul 2008
                • 641

                #37
                Originally posted by sharp9
                Simon...your point about us having played youth "but no one noticed" is actually as bad as it is good.....

                Not one of our young players has actually done much to get noticed.....Jack has had a couple of good games....IN TWO YEARS.....Moore etc...have done some good thing s from time to time.....Vez is the only clear ready to go quality at the moment.

                Other clubs, especially Collingwood, Melbourne and Brisbane, play new young players and they almost always have real impact often straight away.

                One day Nick Smith might (realistically) be a good player and Bird might (realistically) be a game winner....but there's no way to tell at the moment
                I think this is exactly right.

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                • 10Totti10
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 443

                  #38
                  Originally posted by sharp9
                  Simon...your point about us having played youth "but no one noticed" is actually as bad as it is good.....

                  Not one of our young players has actually done much to get noticed.....Jack has had a couple of good games....IN TWO YEARS.....Moore etc...have done some good thing s from time to time.....Vez is the only clear ready to go quality at the moment.

                  Other clubs, especially Collingwood, Melbourne and Brisbane, play new young players and they almost always have real impact often straight away.


                  One day Nick Smith might (realistically) be a good player and Bird might (realistically) be a game winner....but there's no way to tell at the moment
                  Don't 100% agree. The reason why our youngsters are not noticed is because we r sydney, and not a melbourne club. If we were, players like Jack, Veszpa, etc would get immediate attention. Plus they don't have immediate impact. Look at players like nathan brown (collingwood, considered next big full back, being mved around to random positions throughout the year, and is consistently getting dropped). Wellingham (inconsistent), marty clarke (inconsistent), etc. Same with melbourne, with jetta, cheney, playing inconsistently and getting dropped, etc. Plus these clubs have debuted around 15-20 players in the last 2 years while we have played around 8-9. We have had a higher success rate, and IMO most of our kids that we have debuted are better OR will become better than clubs such as melbourne and west coast.

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                  • Lohengrin
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 641

                    #39
                    You mean like how the Melbourne media has failed to notice Rich, Clarke, Drummond, Dalziel, Stiller, Dangerfield, Tippett, Vince, Porplyzia, Naitanui, McKinley, LeCras, Priddis... oh wait...

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                    • Plugger46
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 3674

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Lohengrin
                      You mean like how the Melbourne media has failed to notice Rich, Clarke, Drummond, Dalziel, Stiller, Dangerfield, Tippett, Vince, Porplyzia, Naitanui, McKinley, LeCras, Priddis... oh wait...
                      Few of those have been in the system a while.
                      Bloods

                      "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                      • Lohengrin
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                        • Jul 2008
                        • 641

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Plugger46
                        Few of those have been in the system a while.
                        None of them are above 60 games, and they were all noticed within their first two years.

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                        • pinkemu
                          Silver member, not Gold
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 419

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Lohengrin

                          These comments simply aren't true and are misleading.
                          That comment is simply wrong, they are someone else's point of view, mainly Magoo's and SF1972's.

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                          • Mr Magoo
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2008
                            • 1255

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Lohengrin
                            I've finally watched the show and some of the comments in this threads are a bit strange.

                            Actually it was MS who made both of those comments.



                            These comments simply aren't true and are misleading.
                            Your response is a bit misleading. Please explain how my comment is untrue and misleading? I am interested as to how you interpreted what was said.

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                            • Lohengrin
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                              • Jul 2008
                              • 641

                              #44
                              There was no indication on the show that they didn't care. As discussed already, why would they have known in any detail about players just playing their first season or two who have not been standouts.

                              Just because they are someone's opinions doesn't mean they cannot be incorrect or misleading.

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                              • Mr Magoo
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2008
                                • 1255

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Lohengrin
                                There was no indication on the show that they didn't care. As discussed already, why would they have known in any detail about players just playing their first season or two who have not been standouts.

                                Just because they are someone's opinions doesn't mean they cannot be incorrect or misleading.
                                Which is why I asked you to explain which part was actually untrue and or misleading. While the "they didnt care part" as this was just my opinion of the look on their faces and their body language, the rest I stand by. As per my later post what point it there in having a footy chat and analysis show if the presenters take no time to research the topics to be discussed (and I dont mean detailed research just a basic knowledge).

                                Surely with the information so easily on hand on the internet it would take ten minutes to look on the swans website or even on RWO for reserves reports and be able to say " well white has kicked 20 goals in the last two weeks and Hanneberry has played for the past few weeks while on school holidays and has been one of the best for the reserves". I dont expect them to have an actual opinion on whether Hanneberry is any good but some sort of knowledge on the topic would at least help to allay the ignorance they constantly seem to show. Maybe they could even save themselves the time by getting one of the production assistants on the show to do it if they felt their time was much too precious to deal with such things.

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