Trading talk thread

[chalbilto]

I actually rate Seaby a better player than Blake. Blake is an absolute spud made to look slightly less spudish due to the strength of Geelong's team. At Sydney he would probably be on par with Chambers

[ernie koala]

I'm not knocking Crouch and Barry they have been great players. But by playing on in 2009 they cost us the opportunity to draft 2 players in a strong draft. We also only took a couple of rookies due to $'s avaialable, we could have taken a full quota of rookies without their salaries.

The club IMO should have made the hard decision and told them (or at least 1 of them) their time was up. This decision may hit us hard in a couple of years time.

I get that their's not alot of love for Buchanan which is fine, but if they are planning to flog him off for a pick in this draft then they should have done it last year when a) he had more value and b) the draft was much stronger.

I think he offers a bit more because he can break lines and is a potential game breaker

If it's part of a deal to get a Kennedy or Lovett to the club then that softens the blow

I'm not going to slit my wrists over it but i am dissappointed

I agree, too many older players were kept on the books for too long, while we did minimum drafting in strong uncompromised drafts.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ross Lyon tries for another 'mates rates deal' to replace Milne and reunite Monty with Schneids.

[Mitchell]

Hi all, I am new to this forum but thought it might be of interest to you that a friend of mine who is a massive Hawthorn fan and works at the SCG just bumped into the swans hierarchy in a fairly deep discussion with Ben McGlynn at the cafe there. McGlynn and Kennedy to Sydney???

[Mike_B]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Amon playing at Port or Carlton next year. Both clubs are need some hard nuts in their midfield who can win the ball and get it out to more gifted running players. So far at the Blues, Judd has had to do a lot of this work himself.

Carlton have agreed on a deal to get Brock McLean so I'd say that's their inside player they're in need of.

Port might be an option though.

[caj23]

Hi all, I am new to this forum but thought it might be of interest to you that a friend of mine who is a massive Hawthorn fan and works at the SCG just bumped into the swans hierarchy in a fairly deep discussion with Ben McGlynn at the cafe there. McGlynn and Kennedy to Sydney???

Kennedy yes, for one of our 3rd rounders would be nice

McGlynn is OK but players like him are a dime a dozen, I just don't see him taking us any closer to a premiership.

Hopefully Hawks are clearing room on their list for Gibson and Burgoyne and we can bend them over at the trade table.

[Hartijon]

I would hate to see Buchanan go. To me ,he and Davis were the real Finals heroes of 2005 and 2006. Leo took the screamer sure but he kicked it to Cox in the first place. Buchanan played dam brilliantly when we needed him too and if some others had lifted themselves to the occassion the way he did we would have gone back to back.Now we give Leo Barry,Crouch and Magic great farewells and shaft Buchanan out the back door. If he was a trade possibility he should have played the last 3 games in the firsts. He deserves as much honour (if not more) than the other three. Some of his reckless and brilliant 1% ball gets turned the tide in the biggest game of the year.He is a hero!

[Molly dooker]

Have to agree with you Will, best keep looking for a future star with our picks and I think that nod and a wink about the 3rd tounder for Kennedy's about right, might have to give them a player and that pick? Don't get me wrong, i'd certainly take both of them in the team but Mc Glynn's injuries don't sound great, maybe damaged goods.

Great first post Mitchell, keep up the inside info please.

[CureTheSane]

I'm not knocking Crouch and Barry they have been great players. But by playing on in 2009 they cost us the opportunity to draft 2 players in a strong draft. We also only took a couple of rookies due to $'s avaialable, we could have taken a full quota of rookies without their salaries.The club IMO should have made the hard decision and told them (or at least 1 of them) their time was up.

Probably, but whatyagonnado? They are premiership player, and a significant flag at that.
Particularly Leo, who it could be argued, won the game for us.
People talk of culture and ethos and Buddhas etc tec, and I guess this is what they are talking about.
Business Vs Humanity.....

This decision may hit us hard in a couple of years time.

Impossible to qualify, and probably rubbish anyway.
Aside from that, the good grace set amongst the rest of the players who bore witness to respect shown to other players should do the Swans more favours than any pick we had who may or may not have been worthwhile.

I get that their's not alot of love for Buchanan which is fine, but if they are planning to flog him off for a pick in this draft then they should have done it last year when a) he had more value and b) the draft was much stronger.

20/20 hindsight there (in your opinion).

[Molly dooker]

Hi all, I am new to this forum but thought it might be of interest to you that a friend of mine who is a massive Hawthorn fan and works at the SCG just bumped into the swans hierarchy in a fairly deep discussion with Ben McGlynn at the cafe there. McGlynn and Kennedy to Sydney???

If McGlynn's in talks with the heirarchy (might be our next fab bad boy!), how does Kennedy come into the picture?

[Cardinal]

Hi all, I am new to this forum but thought it might be of interest to you that a friend of mine who is a massive Hawthorn fan and works at the SCG just bumped into the swans hierarchy in a fairly deep discussion with Ben McGlynn at the cafe there. McGlynn and Kennedy to Sydney???

Great stuff - I can't even generate innuendo and speculation by making stuff up let alone make my rumours plausible or credible.

[BSA5]

Some of us were shot down weeks ago for even suggesting it

From memory, the only people shot down were those suggesting he should be delisted. A trade for a decent pick, or a significant upgrade of a pick, would be quite a good result. If no suitable offer comes along, he should be kept.

[Jeffers1984]

3rd rounder from Hall + Buchanan for McGlynn and Kennedy? Probably dreaming

[caj23]

Probably, but whatyagonnado? They are premiership player, and a significant flag at that.
Particularly Leo, who it could be argued, won the game for us.
People talk of culture and ethos and Buddhas etc tec, and I guess this is what they are talking about.
Business Vs Humanity.....

And yet Schneider receives his first notification that he is going to be trade by a telephone call made to him while overseas on his end of season holiday. See any inconsistencies in your arguement there?

Impossible to qualify, and probably rubbish anyway.

It's hardly impossible to quantify that by having less selections in the last uncompromised draft last year is probably going to cost us in the future


Aside from that, the good grace set amongst the rest of the players who bore witness to respect shown to other players should do the Swans more favours than any pick we had who may or may not have been worthwhile.

Unless they look at how the club treated Schneider or Davis (or Barry Hall in some peoples minds)

20/20 hindsight there (in your opinion).

It's not hindsight or my opinion. It was common knowledge at the end of last season that:

(a) Last year was the last uncompromised draft before the Gold Coast and West Sydney entered the competition; and

(b) The draft pool last year was rated much higher by experts than this years crop

[CureTheSane]

And yet Schneider receives his first notification that he is going to be trade by a telephone call made to him while overseas on his end of season holiday. See any inconsistencies in your arguement there?

It wasn't my argument.
I was simply laying out both points of view.
Personally, I would be of the mindset that players are more akin to employees rather than a part of the 'blood spirit'

It's hardly impossible to quantify that by having less selections in the last uncompromised draft last year is probably going to cost us in the future

Whatever you say.
You go ahead and provide your unequivocal proof that had we participated more in last years draft, that we would be in a better position now.
You can SPECULATE all you like.
And even then, please show me a post that you made last year stating how strong the draft was and how we need to delist more players for this reason.
Then show me a post where you anticipated that this years draft would be immensely weak.

Unless they look at how the club treated Schneider or Davis (or Barry Hall in some peoples minds)

Maybe they all hated those players?
Your implication is that the club does not act with any compassion or feeling.
You can't come along and use that as a criticism when you are advocating the same thing having been done last year with Barry and Crouch.

It's not hindsight or my opinion. It was common knowledge at the end of last season that:

(a) Last year was the last uncompromised draft before the Gold Coast and West Sydney entered the competition; and

(b) The draft pool last year was rated much higher by experts than this years crop

And in anticipation of that you say that we should have drafted more last year.
How about the year before?
How about the pre season draft?
What should we have done there?

Shoulda Coulda Woulda

I still say that the Swans have done extremely well over the last 10 years in the drafts compared to most otehr clubs.
We'll do well again this year

[caj23]

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