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  • Mug Punter
    On the Rookie List
    • Nov 2009
    • 3325

    Originally posted by gumby_bolts
    My sources say (I just wanted to say that, however PM me and I can tell you the connection) that Collingwood is the team chasing him but he loved the Swans and the anonymity of playing in Sydney plus he was apprehensive of joining the pies as they have a bad reputation of drug-taking, hanging out with unsavory types etc. Hopefully they work out whatever the issues are with the contract.
    If Tom chooses the Pies over us then as far as I am concerned then he is an idiot, and I say that fully respecting the shortness of careers etc. That club should not be a destination of priority for any young player, they are a long way off being a flag winner.

    Assuming this mail is right it makes me a little more positive about keeping Tom. I suspect we'll find a few extra dollars but it will be a three year deal to take him to free agency and that he will rigorously pursue that option as he should.

    A good three years with us, hopefully with at least one premiership medallion, he'll be 26 with a tick over 100 games on the clock. He'd be perfectly placed for a five year mega deal to set himself up for life. He'd be the perfect profile for free agency.

    I'll respect what he does but I was truly worried if that team coming in was Carlton because they have a coach in Bolton who is not just going to be a great coach but also strikes me as a pretty inspirational human being who players will genuinely want to play for. If it's Collingwood then I feel a ray of hop.

    Plus what on earth are they going to trade us for him? I can't think of a player that we'd want and given Fat Head has traded away all their picks then a pick deal is just not going to happen. I could see the scum playing hardball and taking him to the PSD but then again Brisbane or the Bombers (esp the Bombers) could be well tempted to go for him but if the Pies are going to pay massive overs then he'd probably go there

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    • Velour&Ruffles
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2006
      • 896

      Originally posted by Flying South
      For me, Marley Williams off the halfback/wing would fit in well. I can see him becoming one of the gun HB's of the league. And just the sort of player to give us the run from D50. Eski or Shaw type. "He plays an eye-catching brand of football, mainly due to his ability to break the lines, his evasiveness and long left foot kicking. Williams does not take a backward step and has already shut down several of the AFL's better small forwards. Eski and Shaw. "He plays an eye-catching brand of football, mainly due to his ability to break the lines, his evasiveness and long left foot kicking. Williams does not take a backward step and has already shut down several of the AFL's better small forwards".
      We'd have to abandon the famed "No Dickheads" policy.
      My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        Originally posted by Flying South
        If Collingwood want Titch then only a player swap would do the trick. If they want a good player then they have to give up a good player.

        For me, Marley Williams off the halfback/wing would fit in well. I can see him becoming one of the gun HB's of the league. And just the sort of player to give us the run from D50. Eski or Shaw type. "He plays an eye-catching brand of football, mainly due to his ability to break the lines, his evasiveness and long left foot kicking. Williams does not take a backward step and has already shut down several of the AFL's better small forwards. Eski and Shaw. "He plays an eye-catching brand of football, mainly due to his ability to break the lines, his evasiveness and long left foot kicking. Williams does not take a backward step and has already shut down several of the AFL's better small forwards".
        I'd truly hate to see us bring in anyone that has been through the system of that club

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        • Flying South
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2013
          • 585

          Originally posted by Mug Punter
          I'd truly hate to see us bring in anyone that has been through the system of that club
          2012 premiership player and current reserves coach wasn't a bad player or bloke. You can't taint all their players with their presidents brush.

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          • Primmy
            Proud Tragic Swan
            • Apr 2008
            • 5970

            Originally posted by Flying South
            2012 premiership player and current reserves coach wasn't a bad player or bloke. You can't taint all their players with their presidents brush.
            Boom! And he has beautiful eyes. Even his brother escaped the club to a better place.

            I can't see Tommy go. He has always just sat and waited, kind of like Jared Crouch, not letting anyone in until he is ready. The better he gets, the more bargaining power he will have. He will stay.
            If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              Originally posted by Mug Punter
              I'd truly hate to see us bring in anyone that has been through the system of that club
              As bad as Nick Davis?
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • bandwagon
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2003
                • 519

                Originally posted by Mug Punter
                I'd truly hate to see us bring in anyone that has been through the system of that club
                I think our recent trading with Collingwood has netted us some outstanding individuals - Nick Davis, Rhys Shaw & Andrew Schauble. But perhaps I have selectively forgotten the duds we have received?

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                • Nolie
                  On the wing
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 520

                  Don't rate him. Let him go for a trade. Get Jetta back. Jetta better.

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8149

                    Originally posted by Nolie
                    Don't rate him. Let him go for a trade. Get Jetta back. Jetta better.
                    Jetta has been dreadful for the Weagles this year, continuing on his poor form from last year with us. He can stay where he is for me.
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • WauchopeAnalyst
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 834

                      Originally posted by dimelb
                      As bad as Nick Davis?
                      Paul Williams, Andrew Schauble..

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        Originally posted by Primmy
                        Boom! And he has beautiful eyes. Even his brother escaped the club to a better place.

                        I can't see Tommy go. He has always just sat and waited, kind of like Jared Crouch, not letting anyone in until he is ready. The better he gets, the more bargaining power he will have. He will stay.
                        This is what I reckon too Prims.
                        He's showing them what they'll miss out on if they don't re-sign him.

                        If they want to make room in the salary cap, I hate to say this (again), but it might be time to let AJ go.
                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Looking at who is available in this draft and what we currently have on our list, I wouldn't mind trading Mitchell to Carlton for their 1st rounder, currently pick 5 and one of their 3rd rounders in the 40s, which could be used to upgrade one of other other picks or used as part of a deal with another academy club to get someone like Jack Leslie or Jeremy Finlayson.

                          Heeney, Mills, Hewett and Jones all should be part of our midfield going forward and we have to make room by moving on someone. This is no knock on Mitchell, who I think is a very good player, but we simply have too many quality inside midfielders and should be looking to rebalance the list toward outside runners and KPPs.

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16736

                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            Looking at who is available in this draft and what we currently have on our list, I wouldn't mind trading Mitchell to Carlton for their 1st rounder, currently pick 5 and one of their 3rd rounders in the 40s, which could be used to upgrade one of other other picks or used as part of a deal with another academy club to get someone like Jack Leslie or Jeremy Finlayson.

                            Heeney, Mills, Hewett and Jones all should be part of our midfield going forward and we have to make room by moving on someone. This is no knock on Mitchell, who I think is a very good player, but we simply have too many quality inside midfielders and should be looking to rebalance the list toward outside runners and KPPs.
                            I'd be very surprised if Carlton handed over pick 5 for Mitchell, let alone a third round pick too. If they part with their first pick, it will be for a package of second tier Giants, as SOS continues to shift half the list he assembled at Blacktown down to Lygon Street. They'd probably try to get him via the PSD. If they accepted that wasn't possible, the absolute best we could possibly hope for would be their first pick with our first pick going back to them. Even that's unlikely. They'd probably try to offer their second plus a fringe player. Whether that is fair value or not is beside the point. He's out of contract and they are intent on snaring talent on the cheap (in terms of trade cost).

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              After reading Ross Lyon has worries retaining Nate Fyfe....

                              Mitchell does have some roots in WA.

                              How about we offer up Mitchell and Reid for Fyfe....Fanciful I know, especially given the low currency Reid presently has.

                              But letting go those 2 would certainly free up the necessary cap space, they are desperate for a tall forward, they seem to miss out at the trade table every year,

                              and also could do with a younger extractor...

                              You never know if you don't ask.
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Originally posted by liz
                                I'd be very surprised if Carlton handed over pick 5 for Mitchell, let alone a third round pick too. If they part with their first pick, it will be for a package of second tier Giants, as SOS continues to shift half the list he assembled at Blacktown down to Lygon Street. They'd probably try to get him via the PSD. If they accepted that wasn't possible, the absolute best we could possibly hope for would be their first pick with our first pick going back to them. Even that's unlikely. They'd probably try to offer their second plus a fringe player. Whether that is fair value or not is beside the point. He's out of contract and they are intent on snaring talent on the cheap (in terms of trade cost).
                                Collingwood gave up 2 first round picks for Treloar and pick 28, so one first rounder doesn't seem unreasonable for Mitchell (forget the 3rd round pick, not important). I rate Treloar higher than Tom, but not by all that much, and their stats this year are pretty close. I would think that besides Carlton, Richmond and St. Kilda would also be in the hunt for a top line inside midfielder, so it won't be that easy to just walk to Carlton. The draft is a bit of a lottery. If you look back at 2009 for example, I would say of the top 12 picks only Dustin Martin is better than Mitchell, with Scully and Cunnington around the mark. Giving up a pick between 5 and 9 would be a good get for Mitchell.

                                Normally you wouldn't consider trading a player of Tom's ability. It's only because we have a relatively young midfield core that doesn't look like changing for the next few years and it's impeding the next group (Heeney, Mills, Hewett and Jones) from getting playing time in the midfield, which would suit them more.

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