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  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    #76
    He could've had a running shot at goal in the third quarter, about two minutes after he missed a running shot from about the same distance on the other side of the ground, he hesitated and then passed it off. Both kicks were gettable, but he wouldnt even take the shot the second time. Give him a run in the two's, let him kick 5, then bring him back. I don't see what the big deal about letting him have a run in the two's is. It's not what he has been doing thats kept him in the side these past few weeks , it's what he ]could be doing.

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    • Jewels
      On the Rookie List
      • Oct 2006
      • 3258

      #77
      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
      He could've had a running shot at goal in the third quarter, about two minutes after he missed a running shot from about the same distance on the other side of the ground, he hesitated and then passed it off. Both kicks were gettable, but he wouldnt even take the shot the second time. Give him a run in the two's, let him kick 5, then bring him back. I don't see what the big deal about letting him have a run in the two's is. It's not what he has been doing thats kept him in the side these past few weeks , it's what he ]could be doing.
      A run in the ressies seems to be the tonic for Jesse, I reckon it couldn't hurt to give it a go for Jets.

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #78
        Having just watched some of the replay, anywhere on ground is good for Jetts. He is a little nusance (sic) and bothers them to bits. Its a shame about the non kicked goals, but it is also now hilarous. He had better not kick one before the Collingwood game! We will raise the roof when he does and I want to be there. Although against Port would also be a cracker.
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        • tez
          Warming the Bench
          • Jan 2003
          • 251

          #79
          Run him in the magoos for a few weeks. No doubt about hi pace but overall hasn,t really done anything. Work in progress with a lot of
          gym time.

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          • Hartijon
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2008
            • 1536

            #80
            Jetta

            ?At the moment, it?s just completely psychological. To be perfectly frank ? he?s probably got to go back to the seconds and kick two or three goals because I don?t think it?s going to happen at senior level,? he said.

            ?That?s okay. He?s just a young kid and he?s just got the yips at the moment. The way to fix that is to get him back, get him playing good footy and kicking two or three goals in the seconds and he?ll be fine.

            ?It?s probably at the stage now where he?d run into an open goal and trip over the footy, but he?s a really talented kid and it?ll turn around. When it does, he?s the sort of kid who?ll kick 12 or 13 straight.?


            This is the Roos philosophy of coaching in a nut shell. "She'll be right mate,just drop him down to the 2's"" Imagine what Malthouse would do.The poor kid would actually be practising kicking goals on the run for 8 hours a day 7 days a week till he averaged 80% with no let up on other training either. Is Jetta lucky or unlucky to experience the Roos method? The players love him or used to love him but hell he is casual and sometimes appears to be just plain slack.

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            • ugg
              Can you feel it?
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 15971

              #81
              I don't think Malthouse is the best example to use given how profligate the Magpies have been this season in converting their goal scoring opportunities.

              Anyway, you can practise all you want, even in simulated game environments but it's never going to replicate the real thing. Jetta wrote in his blog early on, when he was only on 3 or 4 behinds how great it would be to finally kick that first goal. It's obvious that it is at the forefront of his mind. The crowd goes mental whenver he gets the ball, and no doubt is urging him on to kick it, but he has burnt more than a few opportunities when it would have been better to pass it off to a teammate.
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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16778

                #82
                Originally posted by Hartijon
                ?
                This is the Roos philosophy of coaching in a nut shell. "She'll be right mate,just drop him down to the 2's"" Imagine what Malthouse would do.The poor kid would actually be practising kicking goals on the run for 8 hours a day 7 days a week till he averaged 80% with no let up on other training either. Is Jetta lucky or unlucky to experience the Roos method? The players love him or used to love him but hell he is casual and sometimes appears to be just plain slack.
                Yep. Because of course the only way Roos communicates with his charges is via one or two line bites he feeds to the media.

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                • Mr Magoo
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2008
                  • 1255

                  #83
                  Originally posted by liz
                  Yep. Because of course the only way Roos communicates with his charges is via one or two line bites he feeds to the media.
                  And if he did go the media saying "yep his kicking is terrible and we've had a good long talk to him and hes going to be practising7 days a week until he averages 80% and were gonna ride him hard while hes at it" he be criticised for airing his laundry in public.

                  Give the guy a break.

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                  • Matty10
                    Senior Player
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1331

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Hartijon
                    This is the Roos philosophy of coaching in a nut shell. "She'll be right mate,just drop him down to the 2's"" Imagine what Malthouse would do.The poor kid would actually be practising kicking goals on the run for 8 hours a day 7 days a week till he averaged 80% with no let up on other training either. Is Jetta lucky or unlucky to experience the Roos method? The players love him or used to love him but hell he is casual and sometimes appears to be just plain slack.
                    ?At the moment, it?s just completely psychological. To be perfectly frank ? he?s probably got to go back to the seconds and kick two or three goals because I don?t think it?s going to happen at senior level,? he said.
                    I think that it is reasonably clear from Roos' statements that it is not a matter of skill (which means that Jetta is not having these problems at training). It is an in-game issue that Jetta seems to be having which means that he needs to overcome the problem on the field.

                    I imagine that the pressure of being off the tv (and away from big crowds) might help - right now his confidence must be taking a battering. Roos has left him in the senior team for quite a while considering he has missed so many goals - there are not too many options left really.

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                    • Hartijon
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2008
                      • 1536

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                      And if he did go the media saying "yep his kicking is terrible and we've had a good long talk to him and hes going to be practising7 days a week until he averages 80% and were gonna ride him hard while hes at it" he be criticised for airing his laundry in public.

                      Give the guy a break.
                      Why? Why give him a break? Why can't coaches cop criticism for players and the teams poor performance? They are well paid to do a certain job and achieve results why can't we criticise them? I think for Roosey to have such a wonderful prodigious talent as Jetta under his care and guidance is a huge responsibility for which he should be accountable. Roos has had some wonderful coaching successes,Jetta is not one of them..yet. But half way through a season to have a young player so lacking in confidence seems to me to be poor human resource management.
                      Roos as Head Coach is accountable for this situation . If Jetta was an employee at a firm,underachieving for the same reasons,the managers would be called to task.that is all I am doing and quite justifiably so.

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                      • Primmy
                        Proud Tragic Swan
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5970

                        #86
                        If only he would stop trying to kick goals, and just blow them out of the water with his speed, which cannot be questioned. Don't kick, just run kiddo.
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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16778

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Hartijon
                          Roos as Head Coach is accountable for this situation . If Jetta was an employee at a firm,underachieving for the same reasons,the managers would be called to task.that is all I am doing and quite justifiably so.
                          Firstly, who says Jetta is underachieving? He is a first year trainee for goodness sake.

                          And secondly, I promise you that the one-on-one performance coaching and feedback wouldn't be conducted via the media.

                          You seem to think you know how Jetta (or White or any others) are developed and coached purely based on Roos' pressers?????

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                          • Margie
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 800

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Hartijon
                            This is the Roos philosophy of coaching in a nut shell. "She'll be right mate,just drop him down to the 2's"" Imagine what Malthouse would do.The poor kid would actually be practising kicking goals on the run for 8 hours a day 7 days a week till he averaged 80% with no let up on other training either. Is Jetta lucky or unlucky to experience the Roos method? The players love him or used to love him but hell he is casual and sometimes appears to be just plain slack.
                            I'll bet there's a few Magpies fans who wish Malthouse would do just that!

                            Bad example.
                            Last edited by Margie; 30 June 2010, 03:04 PM.

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                            • Jewels
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Hartijon
                              Why? Why give him a break? Why can't coaches cop criticism for players and the teams poor performance? They are well paid to do a certain job and achieve results why can't we criticise them? I think for Roosey to have such a wonderful prodigious talent as Jetta under his care and guidance is a huge responsibility for which he should be accountable. Roos has had some wonderful coaching successes,Jetta is not one of them..yet. But half way through a season to have a young player so lacking in confidence seems to me to be poor human resource management.
                              Roos as Head Coach is accountable for this situation . If Jetta was an employee at a firm,underachieving for the same reasons,the managers would be called to task.that is all I am doing and quite justifiably so.
                              Do us all a favour and post all the footage you shoot from your spy cameras, at training, in the rooms and in the coaching staffs offices, onto youtube so we can all make these astute observations about Roos and his methods with the same evidence that you have.

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                              • Go Swannies
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 5697

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Jewels
                                Do us all a favour and post all the footage you shoot from your spy cameras, at training, in the rooms and in the coaching staffs offices, onto youtube so we can all make these astute observations about Roos and his methods with the same evidence that you have.
                                It's fair to say that we who don't have access to Hartijon's inside info will never know what Roos really feels and thinks. Hasn't he said that one thing he learned as a player that he's taken into coaching is to never do a critique straight after a bad game because he'd say things in anger that weren't justified in the cold light of the next day?

                                If we wanted direct feedback and tantrums we should have kept Eade, proceeded with Wallace or aimed for Mick M.

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