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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    I don't think either are matchwinners so what difference does it make. I suppose there's a chance Bevo may kick a goal or two. Isnt it interesting we spend the most time arguing over the last player picked who will probably have the least effect on the game.

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    • stellation
      scott names the planets
      • Sep 2003
      • 9720

      Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
      How we can compare stats and make a judgement on 3 games between them is beyond me. Coin toss.
      Where's Patty??????
      No coin toss, lady. Bevo's bloody Bevo!
      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9720

        Originally posted by aardvark
        I don't think either are matchwinners so what difference does it make. I suppose there's a chance Bevo may kick a goal or two. Isnt it interesting we spend the most time arguing over the last player picked who will probably have the least effect on the game.
        I know what you mean, but I think the part in bold is the most important bit for team selection. Matt's got about 3 1/2 years on Paul, if it's not finals time then it's fair to say that the last spot on the list might be alright for a development guy.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          Originally posted by BSA5
          Besides which, the theory that skills are less important in wet weather is severely flawed. Yes, skillful players don't make the most of their skills in the wet. But neither do the unskilled players. In fact, they get even worse. What the wet weather does is it blunts everybody's skills to some extent, but accentuates the difference between skillful players and not-so-skillful players. The cream doesn't rise to the top, so to speak, just that the rain washes the milk away quicker than the cream.
          Rodney Eade is a great believer that wet weather gives sides/players with good skills a bigger advantage over less skilled players than on a dry track.

          He is a firm believer about wet weather bringing sides together being a complete fallacy.

          The skillful side mightn't win by as many points because the conditions aren't conducive to high scoring, but they are a surer bet to win.
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            Originally posted by Peace
            I think bevan would be better for the conditions this weekend.... bigger body and very hard at the ball, there are going to be a lot of short passes instead of long so MOD's skills aren't going to come into play. He may get mega posessions in the reserves but he just doesn't have the confidence or hardness in the AFL at the moment, although i do agree that he does look to have a future about him.

            This game is important and its going to be congested and full of tackling, Bevan is a much better option than MOD for this game.

            Peace
            Originally posted by Nich
            Agreed!
            Agreed. Need a bit of nut power sliding in the packs. Not to mention a bigger body.

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              Originally posted by Triple B
              Rodney Eade is a great believer that wet weather gives sides/players with good skills a bigger advantage over less skilled players than on a dry track.

              He is a firm believer about wet weather bringing sides together being a complete fallacy.

              The skillful side mightn't win by as many points because the conditions aren't conducive to high scoring, but they are a surer bet to win.
              But are the Doggies suffering from the Eade factor of late?
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                Originally posted by ScottH
                Agreed. Need a bit of nut power sliding in the packs. Not to mention a bigger body.
                I don't know that McGuane of Richmond would back up that statement after his unfortunate slide into the goal post last week.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  Originally posted by Triple B
                  Rodney Eade is a great believer that wet weather gives sides/players with good skills a bigger advantage over less skilled players than on a dry track.

                  He is a firm believer about wet weather bringing sides together being a complete fallacy.

                  The skillful side mightn't win by as many points because the conditions aren't conducive to high scoring, but they are a surer bet to win.
                  Someone should have told the Tigers that last weekend.
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • SwansFan1972
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 621

                    Originally posted by Triple B
                    Rodney Eade is a great believer that wet weather gives sides/players with good skills a bigger advantage over less skilled players than on a dry track.

                    He is a firm believer about wet weather bringing sides together being a complete fallacy.

                    The skillful side mightn't win by as many points because the conditions aren't conducive to high scoring, but they are a surer bet to win.
                    There is so little footy played in truly wet conditions these days it is hard to say. Most recent evidence if taken in isolation (Port v Tigers last week) would seem to indicate the opposite! But that result is so peculiar as to not offer much insight into anything I reckon!

                    Generally tho, it makes sense that a more skilled team should stay as the more skilled team, regardless of the conditions.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      Originally posted by Nico
                      I don't know that McGuane of Richmond would back up that statement after his unfortunate slide into the goal post last week.
                      At least he was sliding in the right direction.

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                      • Peace
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 598

                        Originally posted by stellation
                        Unless I missed it something your point was that Bevo gets the ball more, with MOD only having it 10 times. BSA5 pointed out that Bevo has only averaged getting it 10 times this year.

                        Bevan had 5 tackles and 4 insides 50s in two games, MOD had 1 and 2 in one game. I don't really think that's much of a difference. MOD got 1 clearance, Paul got zilch. MOD got 7 contested touches in 1 game, Paul got 9 in 2.

                        As it stands right now, I think it's fair to say that BSA5 is more handsome than you. Lift your game you dirty Bevo lover!
                        actually i never said bevo will GET more of the ball, he will just GO for it a lot more in this type of game

                        bevan is definitely a better tackler as well.

                        BSA5 is probably still a little more handsome though =/
                        Last edited by Peace; 4 June 2010, 08:51 PM. Reason: shutup

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                        • CJK
                          Human
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2170

                          No rain since 6pm btw
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                          • bodgie
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 501

                            If the selectors don't think we can beat Essendon in the wet without Bevan then .... where are the Swans at?

                            I can't see that Bevo who, as a known factor, has become at best a borderline part of the team, will offer much more than a player that could be an important part of our future.

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                            • Far Reach
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 69

                              Originally posted by bodgie
                              If the selectors don't think we can beat Essendon in the wet without Bevan then .... where are the Swans at?

                              I can't see that Bevo who, as a known factor, has become at best a borderline part of the team, will offer much more than a player that could be an important part of our future.
                              It's in some ways an odd selection. But who knows the reasons for it? Seems conservative/ defensive when what we need is to improve our flair to match the better teams- and we have the right players that need time to develop at this level going forward.
                              Last edited by Far Reach; 4 June 2010, 11:37 PM. Reason: dyslexic

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9720

                                Originally posted by Peace
                                actually i never said bevo will GET more of the ball, he will just GO for it a lot more in this type of game

                                bevan is definitely a better tackler as well.

                                BSA5 is probably still a little more handsome though =/
                                I dunno, you've qualified your answer pretty well there- I reckon your bridging the handsome gap now!
                                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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