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  • Trickster
    On the Rookie List
    • Jul 2009
    • 377

    The winner of the 2010 grand final is...the MCG

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    • aardvark
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2010
      • 5685

      Originally posted by Matty10
      I agree with your position on this for the Grand Final.

      However, you cannot just keep going with replay upon replay if (in the unlikely event) no-one manages to secure a win the second week around. It would still be a war (in AFL terms) - two huge battles in successive weeks and then extra time (they would never have a penalty shoot-out). That is about as big as it gets in sporting competitions.

      There is a heap of pressure being put on the AFL now in regards to this rule, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it - but I hope they don't.

      In another thread, somewhere around here, someone suggested they should give premiership medallions to all the players who played for that team during the season (which I think is a great idea - or alternatively, for normal GF years the club should have victory medals made for their entire playing list). However, this becomes more pertinent with changes to the two teams of Collingwood and St Kilda for next week. If a player misses next week through injury and their team gets up, I hope he is still involved on match day (victory stand, etc).
      Demetriou said on the Footy show this morning that they were disinclined to change it but it would be discussed. lets hope there is a result in real time next week.

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      • Xie Shan
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 2929

        Originally posted by aardvark
        Sure it would be exciting but AFL grand finals are a war of attrition and wars are never decided by penalty shootouts. If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.
        I agree, but no-one is saying that the grand final should be decided by a penalty shoot-out, just that we should have had extra time yesterday. If the scores are still deadlocked after a period of extra time, say 5-10 minutes each way (extremely unlikely as this is not soccer), then I don't mind the replay to be fair to both teams as at least both would have been given ample opportunity to win it on the day.
        Last edited by Xie Shan; 26 September 2010, 06:42 PM.

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          Originally posted by aardvark
          If you dare to go over to the dark side and have a look on their board Leon has been hung, drawn and quartered as only Collingwood fans can do.
          But he kept them there for another crack at it next week.

          I just don't get colliwobble fans.
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            Originally posted by Xie Shan
            I agree, but no-one is saying that the grand final should be decided by a penalty shoot-out, just that we should have had extra time yesterday. If the scores are still deadlocked after a period of extra time, say 5-10 minutes each way (extremely unlikely as this is not soccer), then I don't mind the replay to be fair to both teams as at least both would have been given ample opportunity to win it on the day.
            My BIG picture view is that everyone wins out of a replay. The AFL, MCG, club merchandise, the players get paid more, the umps get paid again, the workers at the G get another big pay day, more members get to see a GF, the public get to see another GF on the telly, another round of BBQ's with more snags and grog bought, grass roots footy gets another spin off, off season one week shorter, wall to wall footy chat for another week on radio, Gold Coast and GWS get funded in one hit, Premier Cricket in Melbourne don't have to play round 1 on under prepared grounds due to the wet winter, it's school holidays still in Melbourne so the kids have another week to soak up the tradition and culture etc, etc, etc. Bring it on.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • aardvark
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2010
              • 5685

              Originally posted by AnnieH
              I just don't get colliwobble fans.
              Ah yes Annie, that's part of why you are a loyal Swans fan.....and you probably still have your own teeth !!!

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              • aardvark
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2010
                • 5685

                Originally posted by Nico
                My BIG picture view is that everyone wins out of a replay. The AFL, MCG, club merchandise, the players get paid more, the umps get paid again, the workers at the G get another big pay day, more members get to see a GF, the public get to see another GF on the telly, another round of BBQ's with more snags and grog bought, grass roots footy gets another spin off, off season one week shorter, wall to wall footy chat for another week on radio, Gold Coast and GWS get funded in one hit, Premier Cricket in Melbourne don't have to play round 1 on under prepared grounds due to the wet winter, it's school holidays still in Melbourne so the kids have another week to soak up the tradition and culture etc, etc, etc. Bring it on.
                and whats more is the GF replay is the ultimate test of both teams strength,mentally and physically. Far far better than a quick fix extra 5 each way.

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                • Old S.M.Blood
                  Pushing for Selection
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 90

                  With a bit of luck The "Colliwobbles" will really set in.
                  You may have guessed I really hate collingwood.


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                  DOWN WITH COLLINGWOOD
                  ???????????????????
                  '----------------------oOO
                  ........|__|__|
                  .......... || ||
                  ....... ooO Ooo
                  Last edited by Old S.M.Blood; 26 September 2010, 11:15 PM.

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    Originally posted by Big Al
                    Agree... shame the brain dead idiots at the AFL didn't change this a long time ago. Grand Final day deserves a winner. How good would have extra time have been today?
                    Al you know we agree with most things, but not this. The biggest problem with extra time IMO is that if one side has a number of injured players (read 2 or 3) that can't return to the field, then they are at a distinct advantage.
                    Does God believe in Atheists?

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                    • Old S.M.Blood
                      Pushing for Selection
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 90

                      What happens if after 2 extra quarters it's still a draw?? Do we lower our game to soccer rules and have a 5 goal shoot out?? God I hope not. The golden goal they use in rugby is no good to us as one side would be kicking with the wind. Nar we have have another game with 22 fit players per team. Besides that I have been told that the extra game is worth $25 000 000 to the A.F.L. not a bad windfall to share amongst the teams.

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                      • laughingnome
                        Amateur Statsman
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 1624

                        Originally posted by Xie Shan
                        I agree, but no-one is saying that the grand final should be decided by a penalty shoot-out, just that we should have had extra time yesterday. If the scores are still deadlocked after a period of extra time, say 5-10 minutes each way (extremely unlikely as this is not soccer), then I don't mind the replay to be fair to both teams as at least both would have been given ample opportunity to win it on the day.
                        My response to that is that both teams already had ample time to win it on the day in the 80 minutes of game time. If you're not going to have ectra-time each week of the H/A season, you can't have special rules for the Grand Final. The Minor Finals were changed because it was disadvantageous to give every other team a week off (which happened after Collingwood and West Coast drew in 1990, for memory). No such disadvantage exists for the Grannie.
                        10100111001 ;-)

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                        • Lucky Knickers
                          Fandom of Fabulousness
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4220

                          Originally posted by Old S.M.Blood
                          The golden goal they use in rugby is no good to us as one side would be kicking with the wind.
                          Doesn't it get windy in the rugby too?

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                          • Frog
                            Retired from RWO
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 1898

                            Originally posted by Old S.M.Blood

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                            . DOWN WITH ST KILDA
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                            '----------------------oOO
                            ........|__|__|
                            .......... || ||
                            ....... ooO Ooo
                            I hate the Ainters just a little bit more.

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                            • Matty10
                              Senior Player
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1331

                              Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
                              Doesn't it get windy in the rugby too?
                              I wouldn't have thought that the wind would even make that much difference in an AFL grand final considering they are played at the MCG, which due to its size and structure just makes the breeze swirl in any old direction providing no real advantage one way or the other.

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                              • Cheer_Cheer
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 739

                                I think the plus for the Swans (and the rest of the comp) is that both of these teams will have one less week of prep work before next season..

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