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  • Melb Blood Bro
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2014
    • 204

    Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
    Emma Quayle's article:

    Isaac Heeney (NSW/ACT, midfielder)

    The best, most complete onballer in the draft to this point. Might be the best, most complete player in it. Smart, aware, organised, gutsy and always seems to play well early. Will go first round to Sydney as a Swans Academy player.

    Abe Davis (NSW/ACT, utility)

    Hard not to notice, given his size (193cm) and athleticism. Can interrupt play with a gutsy mark, has good hands and attacks the game. Very limited pre-season so only just getting going, too. Will more than likely go to the Swans as an Academy player.


    Good wraps on these two boys...interesting about Davis having a limited pre-season, I wasn't aware of that at all.
    We're going to have a pretty awesome midfield in 4-5 years time with the following playing there some or most of their game time;
    Kennedy, Jetta, Bird & K.Jack (all close to retirement).
    Parker, B. Jack, Jones, Mitchell, Lloyd & Hannaberry (current players).
    Perris, Heeney, Mills & Dunkley (likely).
    With Naismith and Nankervis likely to be our main rucks.
    Have I forgotten anyone?
    It's going to be difficult seeing our current youth like Hewitt, Dick, etc getting a spot on our list unless they reinvent themselves in the back half. A couple of them will probably play in the forward half under Buddy and Tippett and maybe one or two in the back half but it is going to be difficult to fit them all in.
    Last edited by Melb Blood Bro; 27 June 2014, 10:25 AM.

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    • Melbourne_Blood
      Senior Player
      • May 2010
      • 3312

      Hewitt has pretty big wraps on him too, I wouldn't write off his handed just yet

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      • Matt80
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2013
        • 1802

        Originally posted by Melb Blood Bro
        We're going to have a pretty awesome midfield in 4-5 years time with the following playing there some or most of their game time;
        Kennedy, Jetta, Bird & K.Jack (all close to retirement).
        Parker, B. Jack, Jones, Mitchell, Lloyd & Hannaberry (current players).
        Perris, Heeney, Mills & Dunkley (likely).
        With Naismith and Nankervis likely to be our main rucks.
        Have I forgotten anyone?
        It's going to be difficult seeing our current youth like Hewitt, Dick, etc getting a spot on our list unless they reinvent themselves in the back half. A couple of them will probably play in the forward half under Buddy and Tippett and maybe one or two in the back half but it is going to be difficult to fit them all in.
        Thought it would be fun predicting the Swans Senior Side for round one 2016, given me know the likely talent for the next two drafts.Ot may not pan out this way due to injuries and other matters. I?ve included the ages of the players:

        B Smith (27) Grundy (29) Davis (19)
        H.B Rohan (24) Johnson (24) Rampe (25)
        C Jetta (26) K.Jack (27) Heeney (19)
        H.F McVeigh (30) Franklin (29) Hanners (25)
        F Reid(24) Tippett (29) Cunningham (22)
        Fow Toby N (21) Parker (23) Kennedy (27)
        Bench Mglynn (30) Jones (20) Lloyd (22)
        Sub Mills (18)

        What a team.

        There is height and potency in the forward line. A very deep midfield line with 12 players able to go into the midfield at any one time. The backline is rejuvenated with Johnson and Rohan playing well after long term injuries. Abe Davis is the new Alex Johnson as the young gun third tall. Reid can continue to swing between the forward and backline. There is some serious pace in the side with Smith, Rampe, Rohan, Jetta, K.Jack, Heeney, Cunningham , Mglynn, Jones, Franklin,Lloyd and Mills regarded as quick players. There are the big bodies of Kennedy and Parker in the middle. Jones has emerged to be one of the really strong defensive midfielders (taggers) in the competition. There is class and endurance on the Half Forward line with Hanners and McVeigh. Mills starts as Sub but is highly regarded due to his high placing in the draft. The only possible weakness is in the ruck with Toby N and Tippett. There is significant competition for places from depth players:

        - Bird
        - Hewitt
        - B.Jack
        - D.Robinson
        - Dunkely
        - Naismith
        - Perris
        - Aliir

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        • troyjones2525
          Swans Fanatic!
          • Mar 2008
          • 2908

          Originally posted by Matt80
          Thought it would be fun predicting the Swans Senior Side for round one 2016, given me know the likely talent for the next two drafts.Ot may not pan out this way due to injuries and other matters. I?ve included the ages of the players:

          B Smith (27) Grundy (29) Davis (19)
          H.B Rohan (24) Johnson (24) Rampe (25)
          C Jetta (26) K.Jack (27) Heeney (19)
          H.F McVeigh (30) Franklin (29) Hanners (25)
          F Reid(24) Tippett (29) Cunningham (22)
          Fow Toby N (21) Parker (23) Kennedy (27)
          Bench Mglynn (30) Jones (20) Lloyd (22)
          Sub Mills (18)

          What a team.

          There is height and potency in the forward line. A very deep midfield line with 12 players able to go into the midfield at any one time. The backline is rejuvenated with Johnson and Rohan playing well after long term injuries. Abe Davis is the new Alex Johnson as the young gun third tall. Reid can continue to swing between the forward and backline. There is some serious pace in the side with Smith, Rampe, Rohan, Jetta, K.Jack, Heeney, Cunningham , Mglynn, Jones, Franklin,Lloyd and Mills regarded as quick players. There are the big bodies of Kennedy and Parker in the middle. Jones has emerged to be one of the really strong defensive midfielders (taggers) in the competition. There is class and endurance on the Half Forward line with Hanners and McVeigh. Mills starts as Sub but is highly regarded due to his high placing in the draft. The only possible weakness is in the ruck with Toby N and Tippett. There is significant competition for places from depth players:

          - Bird
          - Hewitt
          - B.Jack
          - D.Robinson
          - Dunkely
          - Naismith
          - Perris
          - Aliir
          Interesting looking team and exciting for our future if it all pans out this way! But couldn't help notice there was no mention of Tom Mitchell and Membrey. Predicting a trade/free agent loss in the near future I see! In that case I would expect we would hopefully get something quality in return that should slot into that side also!

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          • Go Swannies
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2003
            • 5697

            Originally posted by Matt80
            Thought it would be fun predicting the Swans Senior Side for round one 2016, given me know the likely talent for the next two drafts.Ot may not pan out this way due to injuries and other matters. I?ve included the ages of the players:

            B Smith (27) Grundy (29) Davis (19)
            H.B Rohan (24) Johnson (24) Rampe (25)
            C Jetta (26) K.Jack (27) Heeney (19)
            H.F McVeigh (30) Franklin (29) Hanners (25)
            F Reid(24) Tippett (29) Cunningham (22)
            Fow Toby N (21) Parker (23) Kennedy (27)
            Bench Mglynn (30) Jones (20) Lloyd (22)
            Sub Mills (18)

            What a team.

            There is height and potency in the forward line. A very deep midfield line with 12 players able to go into the midfield at any one time. The backline is rejuvenated with Johnson and Rohan playing well after long term injuries. Abe Davis is the new Alex Johnson as the young gun third tall. Reid can continue to swing between the forward and backline. There is some serious pace in the side with Smith, Rampe, Rohan, Jetta, K.Jack, Heeney, Cunningham , Mglynn, Jones, Franklin,Lloyd and Mills regarded as quick players. There are the big bodies of Kennedy and Parker in the middle. Jones has emerged to be one of the really strong defensive midfielders (taggers) in the competition. There is class and endurance on the Half Forward line with Hanners and McVeigh. Mills starts as Sub but is highly regarded due to his high placing in the draft. The only possible weakness is in the ruck with Toby N and Tippett. There is significant competition for places from depth players:

            - Bird
            - Hewitt
            - B.Jack
            - D.Robinson
            - Dunkely
            - Naismith
            - Perris
            - Aliir
            You've forgotten Goodes.

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6480

              Troy I think

              Alir Alir will surprise as he is mobile like a young Richards but stronger

              Birdy for me is still in the best 22 come 2016 even though Heeney is exciting he will be a bit behind a few of the tough inside Swans
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • Conor_Dillon
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2013
                • 1224

                Definitely don't go writing off Hewett...has class and silk written all over him. He was the youngest player selected in last year's draft and the Swans were absolutely stoked to pick him up so low, similar to how they felt about Hanners and Parker. Certain reports have said they strongly considered choosing him instead of Jones at pick 15.
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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                  Definitely don't go writing off Hewett...has class and silk written all over him. He was the youngest player selected in last year's draft and the Swans were absolutely stoked to pick him up so low, similar to how they felt about Hanners and Parker. Certain reports have said they strongly considered choosing him instead of Jones at pick 15.
                  Totally agree. He's going to be a gun and the pundits will be wondering why he didn't go in the first round.

                  I know history says that they all won't succeed, but we've certainly got a lot of classy talent coming through the system.

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                  • Melb Blood Bro
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 204

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Totally agree. He's going to be a gun and the pundits will be wondering why he didn't go in the first round.

                    I know history says that they all won't succeed, but we've certainly got a lot of classy talent coming through the system.
                    Sounds good. . I know next to nothing about him.

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                    • Matt80
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1802

                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      Interesting looking team and exciting for our future if it all pans out this way! But couldn't help notice there was no mention of Tom Mitchell and Membrey. Predicting a trade/free agent loss in the near future I see! In that case I would expect we would hopefully get something quality in return that should slot into that side also!
                      I think Tom Mitchell will attract a heathy monetary offer and guaranteed senior football at the end of this year from another club. He may elect to go. The Swans would probably get an early 2nd round pick.

                      Membrey may stay on beyond this year but I think his ability to get games as the Swans third tall depends on the recovery of Alex Johnson and the development of Alire and Abe Davis. If Johnson, Alire and Davis don't break through in 2015, that will lead to Sam Reid playing more regularly in the backline. This would open up a forward line spot Membrey. Whether or not Goodes plays on in 2015 will also be a factor.

                      I don't think Goodes can play in 2016 as a 36 year old!

                      Great to hear the raps on Hewitt. There is some great midfield talent emerging.

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        I think Tom Mitchell will attract a heathy monetary offer and guaranteed senior football at the end of this year from another club. He may elect to go. The Swans would probably get an early 2nd round pick..
                        There's been plenty of chatter about Mitchell being traded, probably just speculation due to the number of classy midfielders we have coming through the system. But most of the pundits rate Mitchell a pick 4 or 5 if there aren't concerns about his ankle. I can't see Mitchell going for less than a top 10. He hasn't played many games, but he's shown that he can excel at AFL level, something the new recruits have yet to do. Injury concerns aside, he's a proven player and that has to go into the equation.

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          Originally posted by Matt80
                          I think Tom Mitchell will attract a heathy monetary offer and guaranteed senior football at the end of this year from another club. He may elect to go. The Swans would probably get an early 2nd round pick.
                          You seem to have talked yourself into some kind of fait accompli that Mitchell is on the trade table. Isn't he contracted to the end of 2015?

                          Correct me if I'm wrong..But this is just the view of a fan, you, with no inside knowledge or access to, the Swans football department, or Tom Mitchell himself.

                          For you to be of the opinion he should be traded, fine, that's your opinion.

                          My opinion is, he's a gun, and the Swans will do what's required to keep him long term.
                          Last edited by ernie koala; 27 June 2014, 04:05 PM.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • Melb Blood Bro
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 204

                            Originally posted by ernie koala
                            You seem to have talked yourself into some kind of fait accompli that Mitchell is on the trade table. Isn't he contacted to the end of 2015?

                            Correct me if I'm wrong..But this is just the view of a, fan with no inside knowledge or access to, the Swans football department, or Tom Mitchell himself.
                            And why would you settle for a 2nd round draft pick for a player that we said to be a top 10 draft pick? Having said that we need him. He's a son of one of our great players.

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                            • Untamed Snark
                              Senior Player
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 1375

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              There's been plenty of chatter about Mitchell being traded, probably just speculation due to the number of classy midfielders we have coming through the system. But most of the pundits rate Mitchell a pick 4 or 5 if there aren't concerns about his ankle. I can't see Mitchell going for less than a top 10. He hasn't played many games, but he's shown that he can excel at AFL level, something the new recruits have yet to do. Injury concerns aside, he's a proven player and that has to go into the equation.
                              Most of that chatter has come from Matt80
                              Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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                              • Dosser
                                Just wild about Harry
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1833

                                On SEN yesterday David King also mentioned that Maxfield has a boy coming through in the next couple of years as well. Does anyone know about him or is King just being a goose?

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