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  • reigning premier
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2006
    • 4335

    #91
    Originally posted by swansrob
    Ryan O'Keefe was though.
    Had to get there eventually.

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      #92
      Originally posted by swansrob
      Ryan O'Keefe was though.
      And Barlow

      /might be doing this wrong
      -

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16744

        #93
        Originally posted by reigning premier
        Err.. No they weren't
        Kirk was - he was a rookie.

        Malceski, Schneider, O'Keefe, Smith, Bevan, Kennelly, Grundy, Jack are all examples of players who have give us good value who were taken after pick 50 in the main draft, plus Jolly, Mattner, McGlynn and Mumford all started their careers at other clubs after being taken with similarly low (rookie draft) picks. Any other club could come up with a similar list of quality players taken after number 50 in the ND.

        That said, I agree with the premise of your post - the chances of getting a good player at pick 73 are very low, and clubs land up going through a large number to unearth the gems they do find.
        Last edited by liz; 23 November 2010, 03:11 PM.

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        • reigning premier
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Sep 2006
          • 4335

          #94
          Originally posted by liz
          Kirk was - he was a rookie.

          Malceski, Schneider, O'Keefe, Smith, Bevan, Kennelly, Grundy, Jack are all examples of players who have give us good value who were taken after pick 50 in the main draft, plus Jolly, Mattner, McGlynn and Mumford all started their careers at other clubs after being taken with similarly low (rookie draft) picks. Any other club could come up with a similar list of quality players taken after number 50 in the ND.

          That said, I agree with the premise of your post - the chances of getting a good player at pick 73 are very low, and clubs land up going through a large number to unearth the gems they do find.
          Rookie draft is not the ND. But don't let that get in your way Liz.

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          • magic.merkin
            Senior Player
            • Jul 2008
            • 1199

            #95
            Originally posted by satchmopugdog
            Bet I know him.....this is Tasmania
            Aye.

            Lets play a game: rhymes with wylie and he is a hawks supporter and likes maths and Brett Kirk.

            I'm 27, nearly 20 years between him and my dad.
            Last edited by magic.merkin; 23 November 2010, 03:30 PM.

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            • liz
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              • Jan 2003
              • 16744

              #96
              Originally posted by reigning premier
              Rookie draft is not the ND. But don't let that get in your way Liz.
              But the rookie draft happens after the ND. Therefore anyone taken in the rookie draft is taken after pick 50 in the ND.

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              • royboy42
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2006
                • 2076

                #97
                Originally posted by liz
                But the rookie draft happens after the ND. Therefore anyone taken in the rookie draft is taken after pick 50 in the ND.
                Q.E.D. and touche!

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15963

                  #98
                  For bonus points, work out which players have had successful careers being selected after pick 50 in the rookie draft.
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                  • liz
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16744

                    #99
                    Originally posted by ugg
                    For bonus points, work out which players have had successful careers being selected after pick 50 in the rookie draft.
                    Presumably we're excluding the NSW zone picks, which are listed at the end but selected at the start!

                    I know Jack and McGlynn were the last two rookies selected in their rookie draft excluding the zone picks (the same one but I always get confused with the year which the AFL uses to label the rookie draft).

                    I think Reg was a 4th round rookie pick, so he was probably beyond 50 also.

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                    • ugg
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15963

                      Jack should have been a NSW zone selection but due to his stuff-up he had to be available to all the clubs before he could have been selected.

                      I just looked up Reg's bio, he was pick 42 in the 2005 rookie draft.
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                      • Bas
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4457

                        Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                        Ulverstone is where I live Primmy...
                        Didn't Glen Campbell name his 13th album after it?.

                        "Ulverstone" is the title of a 1969 song written by Jimmy Webb and popularized by Glen Campbell. The song describes a soldier waiting to go into battle who thinks of the woman he loves and his hometown of Ulverstone: "I still hear your sea waves crashing/as I watch the cannons flashing/ I clean my gun/And dream of Ulverstone."

                        They don't write songs like that anymore. I wonder if Justin Bieber could record it?
                        In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                        • Bleed Red Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2057

                          Originally posted by Jesse Richards
                          Yes, still lots to offer the Swans.
                          Yes, still lots to offer the Swans reserves

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                          • ugg
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15963

                            Judging by the photos of the boxing session, unlike a lot of midfield draftees Luke Parker's size and build won't be a hurdle in him playing senior football next year
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                            • wolftone57
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5838

                              That's Galvistone Bas not Ulvistone!

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                              • wolftone57
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                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5838

                                I am wondering if the selectors think Spanger will be a late developer? He has the endurance & the stopping power but as has been recorded here many times his disposal leaves a lot to be desired. But in saying that the coaches can work with him on this problem as they have last year with Teddy's decision making & wasn't he a revelation when given a bit of responsibility & specialist coaching. I am very excited with the other picks as they have good wraps on them & are going to strengthen our depth even more. Lamb is apparently a big talent in the johnston mould, Parker like Bartell or Hodge & Alex Johnson is a very versatile big man. I remember Richmond had one of those who played wing, CHF & HB & the Hawks had Andy Gowers 6'6" on a wing. Oh what joy to see a big guy who is ultra quick as they say this bloke is. This would be the first time since the Barry Round era, surely, that we have had 15 substantial talls to pick from, again what joy, I remember when we had to play short blokes on monsters. Remember Leo on Gerrig & C Bolts on Riewoldt & they were our tall defenders at barely 6'1". Lovely to have lots of guys 191cm & above.

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