Tigers matchday thread

[Nico]

All you guys calling for kicking coaches and kicking practice until their feet bleed need to get it in your head ..... it's all in their head.

Put the big sticks in front of them and the pressure of a game situation and off goes their head and on goes a pumpkin. It's been happening for 100+ years and will happen for the next 100.

Or as Tim Watson once put it; "they have heads like puddings".

Yep, and none of us will be around in 100+ years to prove your statement wrong.

[Nico]

Do modern player management strategies in terms of training loads etc cuts goal kicking practice first? I've only been to watch training once but don't recall any goal kicking practice.
Agree with Stella - get the boys back to the academy under Davo's tutelage.

James Podsiadsy said last week they practice goal kicking 3 days a week at Geelong. I doubt on our results that we have any specific goal kicking practice. Dead set, Goodes has been less than average with his set shots his whole career.

[stellation]

All you guys calling for kicking coaches and kicking practice until their feet bleed need to get it in your head ..... it's all in their head.

Put the big sticks in front of them and the pressure of a game situation and off goes their head and on goes a pumpkin. It's been happening for 100+ years and will happen for the next 100.

Oh, it absolutely is in most cases- but I think there's some correctable things in Sam's action. Beyond that getting someone like Davo in does help, apart from working on mechanics a huge part of it is working on confidence; working with someone you recognize as somebody who can do this in a game situation, having them reach a point where they convince you that they believe you can do it in a game situation. We need someone to be Sam's Obi-Wan, we need Sam in the middle of the battle to ignore everything else and hear Davo's voice saying "use the force" so Sam can calm himself, turn off the targeting computer and just go with it.

[stellation]

Do modern player management strategies in terms of training loads etc cuts goal kicking practice first? I've only been to watch training once but don't recall any goal kicking practice.

Skills practice would normally be seperate to main training that most of use have toddled along to, they do still practice it- but you're right that they have been limited to how many times they can kick the footy in a week. I'm sure in the same situation Davo would have been willing to sacrifice doing some weights training on his legs to have a few extra kicks a week

[liz]

If Davo isn't available, some time spent with LJ (Johnston, not Jetta) might not go astray. That boy certainly knows how to kick for goal.

[erica]

If Davo isn't available, some time spent with LJ (Johnston, not Jetta) might not go astray. That boy certainly knows how to kick for goal.

Or Bradshaw.

[Nico]

Or Bradshaw.

But Bradshaw has a bung knee so he can't give him a practical demonstration.

[giant]

When it comes to goal kicking he absolutely is the role model we're looking for, and I'd say he'd be the role model for any young footballer when it comes to goal kicking. Nick had a phenomenal amount of natural talent obviously, and he grew up with an excellent coach to show him how to kick (who makes a bob now from teaching talented young things to kick)- but for all the questioning people might have given to his willingness to run laps you could never question his willingness to practice, practice and practice again his goal kicking. When Stella junior was little we got along to quite a few training sessions (he loved it) and I can assure you that whilst other guys were starting to warm down it was common to see Davo with a bag of footys practicing his set shots.

Take a look at LRT's field kicking now, then cast your mind back to what it was like when he first started out. Davo worked with him on it.

I was having a dig (and suspecting you - or others - might rise to the bait!) but there was no question that Davo not only had the physical characteristics of a great kick (strong, flexible legs, excellent eye/hand co-ordination, a good footy brain) but also great technical skills. Very still over the ball, a good ball drop, nice balance with the opposite arm, great follow thru etc etc). So there's no question he would be an excellent skills coach - he's not like those freakishly skilled guys who can't understand why other people can't do the things he can do, rather his excellence was well founded in very solid technical expertise.

[Moose Malloy]

Seaby a kicking model

In the period 1987-2011 Mark Seaby is statistically the 10th most accurate goalkicker in the AFL. (9th was Tony Lockett)

[Primmy]

It can't be in his head! If it was he would be crap at taking contested marks, etc etc etc, and getting to the contest......He lines up wrong, and wasn't reading the wind. He needs time and training, that's all. So does Goodsey.

Interesting statement Moose.....whoda.....

[gloveski]

Not worried about Reid he takes an awesome grab and at 19 is a great target. He needs work on his goal kicking and I am sure the club will leave no stone unturned. But geez he is 19 and holding down a key position...............other clubs would give anything to have him on their list. Just one of a great list of youngsters we have at the moment.

[Matt79]

Reid's kicking all comes down to his ball drop. Watch the way he kicks it whether from a set shot or on the run. There is no margin for error...everything must connect correctly for it to go straight. It is obviously a habit that is hard to break as surely the coaches would have been on to it already.

[stellation]

I was having a dig (and suspecting you - or others - might rise to the bait!) but there was no question that Davo not only had the physical characteristics of a great kick (strong, flexible legs, excellent eye/hand co-ordination, a good footy brain) but also great technical skills. Very still over the ball, a good ball drop, nice balance with the opposite arm, great follow thru etc etc). So there's no question he would be an excellent skills coach - he's not like those freakishly skilled guys who can't understand why other people can't do the things he can do, rather his excellence was well founded in very solid technical expertise.

I expected you probably were just joking around, but was just jumping at the chance to expand on it.

[Bas]

Most entertaining part of being at the footy yesterday was watching the cameraman who had to go up in the cherry picker near the member's stand to film the game for channel 7. The flags on the top of the stand were full-out horizontal all day due to the freezing cold wind and I wondered whether the cameramen had to draw straws to see who got that job. Poor bugger, especially during the 4th quarter when the rain really pelted down.

My knees start banging together when I look up at him on a nice day.

I wonder if he is on a no liquid diet 24 hours before the game. Amazing he was up there yesterday.

[ugg]

He was much, much lower than he was at the Hawthorn game. Probably didn't want to get struck by lightning