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  • swansprincess
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2011
    • 306

    Originally posted by Sidney V
    I am officially bamboozled by these changes.

    Having played and watched footy for 45 years I almost rated myself as having an idea about the game and what constitutes a poor, fair, good or great performance. This afternoon I have to admit I have NFI.

    What do you tell Parker and Meredith this week ? Head back to the twos and rip into it like Nipper and Bulldog. Hey TDL you need to apply more forward pressure just like we did inside 50 last week against Richmond 4 times. And LJ we are thinking of giving you 1 more game soon mate - keep up that confidence. How could you honestly look players in the eye and provide them with instructions on what is expected when they have just watched several players repeated avoid the axe with performances that fly in the face of all that has been said to them.

    I feel somewhat confused and frustrated at what has transpired over the past few months - and have occasionally laid some blame out of these emotions - more recently I have sat back to try and grasp something that I am obviously missing. We know that cultures are born over many years with a consistency of action, an unrelenting pursuit of standards and a fairness and honesty in the communication of the message. And leadership is a top down process that instills confidence and courage in those below. Without culture, without leadership we have confusion. The degree of passion / frustration in the box last week was a concern to me - that is where leadership starts - clearing what is planned is not communicated.

    I wonder what the players feel - and I genuinely feel for some of these guys to have to sit and work thru - what appears to me - to be standards for some and not for others.

    Well done to the ins - unlucky for some outs - and even luckier to others to have again held there spots.
    Summed up my thoughts exactly. It sure would have been enlightening to be a fly on the wall at the team meeting.

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    • neilfws
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2009
      • 1826

      Originally posted by Robbo
      Dropping Meredith is a joke. Are we actually ever going to give him a chance to prove himself?
      Apparently not.

      I'm somewhat baffled by some of the changes too, especially Parker. If they set some sort of cut-off based on effort last weekend, you'd think he'd be one of the few who was above it; and some that you'd think were below it are still there.

      I can only assume there is some sort of plan, based on potential match ups, or scoring potential, or something...

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      • ernie koala
        Senior Player
        • May 2007
        • 3251

        Originally posted by Triple B
        In TBC's defence, he is also giving an opinion. That most of you are talking @@@@. FWIW, I agree with him, but that's what makes it fun, doesn't it.
        Let's not forget TB, that you to, are one of "you", talking @@@@ to.
        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          Originally posted by ernie koala
          Let's not forget TB, that you to, are one of "you", talking @@@@ to.
          Too many to's to make any sense of that. I'll need a take two...
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • GongSwan
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2009
            • 1362

            I'm flummoxed, must be about match ups, but why play white atall? He goes ok in the ruck i guess, but doesn't Seaby offer more around the ground or a better target..... anywhere? Givem there is a huge chance it will be wet, why would youdrop parker and bring in another tall in Spangher, not that I think Spang is a bad player, but going for height in the wet is a bit odd, although the Saints do have a tall team. I just don't know
            You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              supercoach strikes again!

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                Originally posted by Triple B
                Too many to's to make any sense of that. I'll need a take two...
                Sorry TB, I've just come from the Chamberlain limerick thread.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • Big Al
                  Veterans List
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 7007

                  Originally posted by GongSwan
                  I'm flummoxed, must be about match ups, but why play white atall? He goes ok in the ruck i guess, but doesn't Seaby offer more around the ground or a better target..... anywhere? Givem there is a huge chance it will be wet, why would youdrop parker and bring in another tall in Spangher, not that I think Spang is a bad player, but going for height in the wet is a bit odd, although the Saints do have a tall team. I just don't know
                  Parker maybe feeling the pinch a bit so I'm not surprised. I am surprised at Whites inclusion. Didn't do anything last week that screamed pick me so he might be in for a specific match up. Either that or he had a cracking week on the track. With the wet weather I would have thought Nipper in the forward line would have been a good idea. Hard at it and can sniff out a goal. Anyway all the debate on selections will come to nought unless the team has a red hot crack. If they don't do that it wouldn't matter who they pick.
                  ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                  Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                  • Nich
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 1291

                    For some reason I still dream of the day Jesse kicks 6+ and takes contested marks all game long.....

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                    • Big Al
                      Veterans List
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 7007

                      Originally posted by Nich
                      For some reason I still dream of the day Jesse kicks 6+ and takes contested marks all game long.....
                      Would you like to borrow my avatar...
                      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                      Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                      • Triple B
                        Formerly 'BBB'
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6999

                        Originally posted by ernie koala
                        Sorry TB, I've just come from the Chamberlain limerick thread.
                        Ah, that's why I couldn't make rhyme nor reason of it...
                        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          Originally posted by ernie koala
                          Sorry TB, I've just come from the Chamberlain limerick thread.
                          The limerick's an art form complex
                          Whose content runs mostly to sex
                          It's famous for virgins
                          And masculine urgin's
                          And vulgar erotic effects.
                          (The rhyme's OK, dunno about reason)
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5854

                            Originally posted by neilfws
                            Apparently not.

                            I'm somewhat baffled by some of the changes too, especially Parker. If they set some sort of cut-off based on effort last weekend, you'd think he'd be one of the few who was above it; and some that you'd think were below it are still there.

                            I can only assume there is some sort of plan, based on potential match ups, or scoring potential, or something...
                            Luke Parker got 7 possessions in one quarter last week & gets dropped. Most of the side didn't even get that in a half. The selection policy is baffling & is sending the wrong message to young players. You do well & we drop you. I am totally bamboozled by these moves by the selection committee. I understand the need for height against St Kilda but I thought Luke was ace last week when he came on. Frustrated would not describe my emotion at the moment. I hope all the players that come in do well, they had better because a couple of potential regulars went out to make way for them.

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                            • wolftone57
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5854

                              Originally posted by Big Al
                              Parker maybe feeling the pinch a bit so I'm not surprised. I am surprised at Whites inclusion. Didn't do anything last week that screamed pick me so he might be in for a specific match up. Either that or he had a cracking week on the track. With the wet weather I would have thought Nipper in the forward line would have been a good idea. Hard at it and can sniff out a goal. Anyway all the debate on selections will come to nought unless the team has a red hot crack. If they don't do that it wouldn't matter who they pick.
                              I don't agree with you on the Parker feeling the pinch, what evidence do you base that on Al? Seven possies in one quarter last week & one of the most self possessed of our team on the day. Gee he is really feeling the pinch, what a lot of crap!!! I do agree that Nipper should have been given a go as both you & Henry Playfair thought he was sensational last week. Obviously Henry's opinion means nothing to the selection committee.

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                              • Big Al
                                Veterans List
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 7007

                                Originally posted by wolftone57
                                I don't agree with you on the Parker feeling the pinch, what evidence do you base that on Al? Seven possies in one quarter last week & one of the most self possessed of our team on the day. Gee he is really feeling the pinch, what a lot of crap!!! I do agree that Nipper should have been given a go as both you & Henry Playfair thought he was sensational last week. Obviously Henry's opinion means nothing to the selection committee.
                                Read my post carefully mate. "Maybe" being the important word here. You and I don't know how Parker is feeling, only the coaching staff do. It's all a matter of conjecture because we don't know but 1st year players do the feel the pinch at this time of year with some dropped to the ressies to freshen so it's not as "crap" an idea as you suggest.
                                ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                                Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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