Changes for Rnd 22 V The Saints

[Snake]

I doubt they'll play Moore, incidentally. Lack of speed is one of our main problems. They're also not going to drop LRT without a plan for second ruckman. Longmire mentioned Pyke at the press conference; if he's fit, maybe they'll rush him back.

Longmire wants toughness, and that's what Moore brings? Wont drop LRT without a plan for a second ruckman - shhhh there is this guy we got from West Coast called Seaby I heard he is a ruckman too........ and another guy called Jesse.

OUT: McGlynn, AJ, Meredith, Jetta, LRT
IN: Bevan, Moore, White, Rohan, Seaby.

[GongSwan]

Before we run off dropping everyone in the team, we can only replace them with what we have in the ressies, obviously Rohan comes in, but Pyke will still be short of a gallop and Nipper will still struggle to get a touch at senior level. I would have thought Moore Bevan, Malceski would be good options to bring in, with the experience base, maybe it's time to try Seaby at FF, move LRT back, give one of the defenders a rest, well we just had the bye so that's not really an excuse I can use. We're just as likely to see a completely different attitude next week, but if we don't continue to play the young blokes and get them to gel as ateam, we're going to be in this spot for along time. We can lament the midfields performance yesterday, but if you have no forward line to kick to, how r u going to go?

[CJK]

I was going to bang my drum about ROK and Irish but I am so over it.

Whatever they go with I'm not sure I can get worked up enough to care.

[Go Swannies]

I expect there will be minimal changes. The players we had on the ground (except for a couple, well one) can play much better than they did yesterday. Even if we lose next week I'll be heartened if someone decides to lay a tackle that sticks or kicks a ball downfield to another Swans player or warns a fellow Swan that he's hot and about to be tackled. Oh, several of them standing around on our forward 50 line might want to do more than watch as a Saints player runs between them to slot a goal down the other end of the field. It's not that we're slow or lack forward structure - it's that we have a group of AFL players who can't kick, tackle or run down the opposition at AFL standard. Oh, kicking goals rather than points would be a good idea, too.

[Captain]

I'm still astonished that people on here think Pyke is ahead of Seaby.

[ernie koala]

I'm still astonished that people on here think Pyke is ahead of Seaby.

Me too.

[Go Swannies]

I'm still astonished that people on here think Pyke is ahead of Seaby.

It's alphabetical.

[Big Al]

I'm still astonished that people on here think Pyke is ahead of Seaby.

As a tap ruck man Seaby has the edge. As the resting ruck man up forward with this ridiculous Sub rule, Pyke has the edge. Pyke in the games i've seen is just more mobile and dangerous when going forward than Seaby is.

[ernie koala]

Longmire wants toughness, and that's what Moore brings? Wont drop LRT without a plan for a second ruckman - shhhh there is this guy we got from West Coast called Seaby I heard he is a ruckman too........ and another guy called Jesse.

OUT: McGlynn, AJ, Meredith, Jetta, LRT
IN: Bevan, Moore, White, Rohan, Seaby.

Aren't you forgetting someone.........Kennelly ?
AJ did look tired, but I'd have him in well ahead of Kennelly.

[ernie koala]

As a tap ruck man Seaby has the edge. As the resting ruck man up forward with this ridiculous Sub rule, Pyke has the edge. Pyke in the games i've seen is just more mobile and dangerous when going forward than Seaby is.

Seaby also gets plenty of the ball around the ground and uses it well......This is where Pyke struggles.

Maybe in a year or 2 Pyke will become a more complete player, but at present he's still on a big learning curve.

[Snake]

Aren't you forgetting someone.........Kennelly ?
AJ did look tired, but I'd have him in well ahead of Kennelly.

Good Point!!!!

Out aswell: Kennelly
In: Esky

[Big Al]

Seaby also gets plenty of the ball around the ground and uses it well......This is where Pyke struggles.

Maybe in a year or 2 Pyke will become a more complete player, but at present he's still on a big learning curve.

Without the sub rule I'd have Mummy and Seaby as the ruckman, no question. With the sub rule the resting ruckman has to spend a lot of time forward and this is where Pyke imo is the better option.

I hate the sub rule.

[BSA5]

As a tap ruck man Seaby has the edge. As the resting ruck man up forward with this ridiculous Sub rule, Pyke has the edge. Pyke in the games i've seen is just more mobile and dangerous when going forward than Seaby is.

Actually, as a tap ruckman, Pyke is ahead of Seaby. As a resting forward, Pyke is ahead of Seaby. Around the ground, Seaby is well ahead of Pyke. If it were out of Pyke and Seaby for the first ruckman, I'd go Seaby. But Pyke has the versatility up forward to be the second ruckman, while still being very effective in the taps.

[Captain]

Let's not forget Pyke is still learning the game.

Give him a year or 2 and he could be great.

[Plugger46]

As a tap ruck man Seaby has the edge. As the resting ruck man up forward with this ridiculous Sub rule, Pyke has the edge. Pyke in the games i've seen is just more mobile and dangerous when going forward than Seaby is.

Yep, agree totally.