Halls side of the story

[BSA5]

The Pareto Principle states that 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes. ie In business 80% of sales come from 20% of the clients.

In this case 98% of the effects came from 2% of the causes. Roos, being the good man manager and businessman, used some skilled business and leadership tactics to squeeze out the 2% that was causing the problems and the other 98% followed his lead. I have no doubt Roos did what he had to do and his calculated actions at the time would have been discussed at least with Ireland and Colless. He is likely to also have discussed the issue with the player leadership group to get their thoughts. No way he was going to go off half cocked and deal with the situation himself. I seem to remember Hall was not happy with Brett Kirk at the time. Clearly there are club procedures to deal with player issues. For Hall to think he should have called him back as good as straight away shows how carried away he clearly was with his own importance, and completely lacked understanding of the position he was in.

All good and well, except Roos has admitted fault in handling the situation. So obviously Roos could have called him back, or at least communicated with him in some fashion.

[ernie koala]

Personally I like Baz, he was great to have as a Swan, loved the way he played......but....
Barry is a drama queen, always has been.
And he doesn't handle criticism well.
He generally behaves like a little boy... Sometimes that's charming, sometimes it's not.
Remember his dummy spit after 2006, he wasn't ever going to speak to the media again because of the criticism (mostly justified) of his GF performance.
IMO, he'll get over it with time, he's just not manning up.
Deflecting blame with the little boys classic.... " what I did was wrong, but"
And at this stage it's all very predictable and very tedious.

[Bas]

Can't. Gotta watch it from my brother Lee's docker loving house. His son is getting confirmed and we're getting a free lunch!!

Can you eat a whole son at one sitting???????

I was expecting to read that it was Staker's fault that Biffo hit him. Is that next chapter?

[Nico]

All good and well, except Roos has admitted fault in handling the situation. So obviously Roos could have called him back, or at least communicated with him in some fashion.

Hindsight can be a very valuable thing. A good card to play when you need it. Great card player is Roosey.

[Nico]

Personally I like Baz, he was great to have as a Swan, loved the way he played......but....
Barry is a drama queen, always has been.
And he doesn't handle criticism well.
He generally behaves like a little boy... Sometimes that's charming, sometimes it's not.
Remember his dummy spit after 2006, he wasn't ever going to speak to the media again because of the criticism (mostly justified) of his GF performance.
IMO, he'll get over it with time, he's just not manning up.
Deflecting blame with the little boys classic.... " what I did was wrong, but"
And at this stage it's all very predictable and very tedious.

I wonder what mag is paying for the wedding photos. Will we see the umbrellas up on a very sunny day to stop the sun from getting on his nadget.

[Plugger46]

Exactly. The media keep trotting out the same stories based on a tiny passage from the book. For all we know, the rest of the book could be dedicated to his own wrongdoings. He could spend 5 chapters praising Roos and the Swans.

Hall has written ONE negative thing about Roos. ONE. Think about it for a second. ONE. Every single one of the countless articles we've read about Hall and Roos' rift, every single "quote" from Hall, they've all come from ONE passage. People seem to think Hall is beating this drum. Hall has written the one book, it is the media which keep bringing it up as if every article they write reflects a new dig.

Yep, absolutely spot on.

[Bas]

Hindsight can be a very valuable thing.

Especially around the Gatorade stand. !!

[hot potato]

Barry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets.
Hopefully theres something in the book we dont know.

[Untamed Snark]

You mean it's over priced.

It's the edition not written in crayon

[ernie koala]

Exactly. The media keep trotting out the same stories based on a tiny passage from the book. For all we know, the rest of the book could be dedicated to his own wrongdoings. He could spend 5 chapters praising Roos and the Swans.

Hall has written ONE negative thing about Roos. ONE. Think about it for a second. ONE. Every single one of the countless articles we've read about Hall and Roos' rift, every single "quote" from Hall, they've all come from ONE passage. People seem to think Hall is beating this drum. Hall has written the one book, it is the media which keep bringing it up as if every article they write reflects a new dig.

This is all true, but let's not forget Baz has thrown fuel on this story by declaring himself a dog, questioning the bloods culture, having a go at Kirk, dislike for the swans style of footy, and ragging off about Roos and insinuating Roos was too gutless to call him or meet with him.
While at the same time declaring he has respect for Horse. ie No respect for Roos.
Now he might be right on all these points, but to say the perception of his views ,of Roos and the Swans, is all media driven is wrong.
Baz has driven this boat, with plenty of help from the media, but he's the skipper.
As I said in an earlier post, IMO, his behaviour ,generally, is like that of a petulant little boy, and I reckon he'll get over it in time, just like little boys do.

[BSA5]

This is all true, but let's not forget Baz has thrown fuel on this story by declaring himself a dog, questioning the bloods culture, having a go at Kirk, dislike for the swans style of footy, and ragging off about Roos and insinuating Roos was too gutless to call him or meet with him.
While at the same time declaring he has respect for Horse. ie No respect for Roos.
Now he might be right on all these points, but to say the perception of his views ,of Roos and the Swans, is all media driven is wrong.
Baz has driven this boat, with plenty of help from the media, but he's the skipper.
As I said in an earlier post, IMO, his behaviour ,generally, is like that of a petulant little boy, and I reckon he'll get over it in time, just like little boys do.

1. Declaring himself a dog - HE IS A DOG. What did you expect? If Bradshaw had been interviewed and said he still considered himself a Lion WHILE PLAYING FOR US, I'd have been mighty pissed off.
2. Questioning the bloods culture - What, you mean like pretty much everybody here was in 2009? I think it's fair to say that a culture can be questioned, can't you? What's wrong with pointing out a few of the flaws. I think most here felt it was getting a bit cultish, to the detriment of the team, in 2008/9.
3. Having a go at Kirk - Quotes? And complaining that he talked to the media before he talked to him is fair enough. It's not a great look for Kirk.
4. Dislike for the Swans style of footy - What's wrong with that? Again, most people on here have expressed a dislike for the Swans style of footy.
5. Ragging off about Roos, etc - Already addressed. He's allowed to be honest. Roos acted poorly.

Most of the stuff here has been incidental statements that are basically inferred from what he's saying when praising the Dogs anyway. He says something good about the Dogs, and the journos pump up the inference that the Swans were somehow inferior in this regard. He's mentioned he was happy with the supply he was getting at the Dogs, so maybe the Swans weren't that great. Etc, etc, etc. He gets fed leading questions, he answers them honestly. Fair game IMO. Doesn't mean he'll never be a Swan again, doesn't mean he harbours any resentment, he just has some opinions which when you think about them are fair enough. After all, they're opinions that have been expressed here by posters numerous times.

[Cygnus]

Hall can think, feel and say whatever he wants, I even think his opinion is fairly well justified in this case.

That being said, just because you may be right in your opinion doesn't mean its always a good idea to offer it publicly. I think a day will come when Hall looks back at this and regrets the way HE handled this too, but he may or may not actually admit it like roos did.

Anyway, the whole thing has been blown out of proportion as is often the case in football media.

[Triple B]

That being said, just because you may be right in your opinion doesn't mean its always a good idea to offer it publicly.....

When you are trying to flog a book it is. Which of course is why the whole thing has come to light...

Storm in a D-Cup...

[Go Swannies]

The Swans gave Baz a Premiership and his enduring forward partner in Magic; the Dogs gave him a comfy retirement home and a lot of disappointment. Of course you'll love the Doggies forever, Baz.

But can you just shut up for a while?

[longmile]

Am I the only one who thinks its been written horribly?