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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    #46
    Originally posted by Big Al
    Jono, I hated that Izzy and Inglis played for QLD but it's my understanding the rules didn't allow for anything else. Hard to blame the players choice when the choice was playing SOO for QLD or not playing at all.

    Also can you explain your crack about Minto?? Just another Western Suburbs stereotype I'm guessing but happy to have misunderstood your intent.
    Al - it wasn't a crack about Minto - the opposite actually. I was saying that, from what I understand, he's originally from Minto so he is a good fit for GWS as being originally a local. I could have worded my post better, in that I dislike him for playing for Qld, not for being from Minto.

    From what I also understand, Greg Inglis was always very vocal of his choosing to play for Qld - he's a New South Welshman through and through, being from Macksville/Bowraville, so I have never forgiven him for jumping the fence. Izzy was never as vocal about it, but I believe he could have chosen to play for NSW if he'd wanted to. If not, then the rules suck..... Anyway he played for the Storm and the Broncos, so that in itself gives me 2 good reasons to dislike him... :-)

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    • WeHaveTheGoodes
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Mar 2012
      • 259

      #47
      Well before 1980 - didnt NSW always select Qld born players who were then playing the NSWRL comp? Isn't that the main reason state of origin was born? Arthur Beetson played for NSW up until 1980..didnt he?

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      • Big Al
        Veterans List
        • Feb 2005
        • 7007

        #48
        Originally posted by jono2707
        Al - it wasn't a crack about Minto - the opposite actually. I was saying that, from what I understand, he's originally from Minto so he is a good fit for GWS as being originally a local. I could have worded my post better, in that I dislike him for playing for Qld, not for being from Minto.

        From what I also understand, Greg Inglis was always very vocal of his choosing to play for Qld - he's a New South Welshman through and through, being from Macksville/Bowraville, so I have never forgiven him for jumping the fence. Izzy was never as vocal about it, but I believe he could have chosen to play for NSW if he'd wanted to. If not, then the rules suck..... Anyway he played for the Storm and the Broncos, so that in itself gives me 2 good reasons to dislike him... :-)
        Okay, no worries!

        I don't think the eligibility rules allow a choice. Inglis' being outspoken was probably a message to the selectors that even though I'm from NSW I'm 100% committed to QLD. I guarantee that if he said I want to play for NSW but I'm forced to play for QLD the QLD selectors wouldn't have touched him with a barge pole.

        Anyway, that aside I was never a fan of Inglis(He just seems to be up himself). Loved watching Folou play though no matter who he played for.
        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

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        • Mr Magoo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1255

          #49
          I really dont believe that GWS are putting up an us v them type mentality any more than carlton do against collingwood or fremantle do against west coast. I bet not all of the players from those teams are forced to live and breathe the ethos of those suburbs/areas just to play for them ( unless the ethos in fremantle generally is that we never know how to win a premiwership , we cant write songs and we love purple as a fashion statement).

          As for repreresenting the region - what part of the names , Essendon, Carlton, Richmond , Collingwood suggest they are not representing that region / suburb. I accept that many people from outside that suburb may support that team but if they didnt want to associate with the area , they would just become the Magpies, the Blues, the Tigers and the Bombers.

          Lets face it the only reason Geelong players live in Geelong is probably because its too far to drive from Melbourne every day and as for Gold Coast - whats the alternative - Brisbane? I know if someone said to me , Ill pay you a million bucks to come and play footy for me and we would prefer you live in the area which is a popular beach holiday destination , I would hardly think you would need to really convince me.

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          • Dosser
            Just wild about Harry
            • Mar 2011
            • 1833

            #50
            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
            I really dont believe that GWS are putting up an us v them type mentality any more than carlton do against collingwood or fremantle do against west coast. I bet not all of the players from those teams are forced to live and breathe the ethos of those suburbs/areas just to play for them ( unless the ethos in fremantle generally is that we never know how to win a premiwership , we cant write songs and we love purple as a fashion statement).

            As for repreresenting the region - what part of the names , Essendon, Carlton, Richmond , Collingwood suggest they are not representing that region / suburb. I accept that many people from outside that suburb may support that team but if they didnt want to associate with the area , they would just become the Magpies, the Blues, the Tigers and the Bombers.

            Lets face it the only reason Geelong players live in Geelong is probably because its too far to drive from Melbourne every day and as for Gold Coast - whats the alternative - Brisbane? I know if someone said to me , Ill pay you a million bucks to come and play footy for me and we would prefer you live in the area which is a popular beach holiday destination , I would hardly think you would need to really convince me.
            I think we agree with each other on most things here, except I think the suburban tribalism had pretty much disappeared from the Melbourne footy landscape about 30 years ago. These days you would find the same proportion of Essendon supporters living in Richmond as you would Richmond supporters, etc. To live in a certain suburb doesnt necessarily mean you follow that team any more.

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            • Big Al
              Veterans List
              • Feb 2005
              • 7007

              #51
              Pickering on League teams said the real stuff starts tonight. Goes to show you don't need a long neck to be a goose.
              ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

              Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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              • WeHaveTheGoodes
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Mar 2012
                • 259

                #52
                Name a collingwood player who lives there? Actually its very hipster and very fashionable so i would say a few might live there. Harry O hangs out on Smith St.

                I guess essendon is a more realistic example.

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #53
                  Originally posted by WeHaveTheGoodes
                  Well before 1980 - didnt NSW always select Qld born players who were then playing the NSWRL comp? Isn't that the main reason state of origin was born? Arthur Beetson played for NSW up until 1980..didnt he?
                  SOO was born because WA and SA got sick of being trounced by the Vics in the interstate clashes. The NSWRFL liked the idea and adopted it, however, in Aussie Rules club football has always been more important than interstate football, so it is only played occasionally now.
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • wolftone57
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5857

                    #54
                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    SOO was born because WA and SA got sick of being trounced by the Vics in the interstate clashes. The NSWRFL liked the idea and adopted it, however, in Aussie Rules club football has always been more important than interstate football, so it is only played occasionally now.
                    State of Origin footy stopped because the Vics wouldn't support it. The reason they wouldn't support it, because they were starting to get beaten regularly. This hadn't happened before because they had the best from the other states playing for them, bunch of cheats if you ask me just like NSW in the RL.

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                    • wyatt
                      Sitting in the red vest
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 124

                      #55
                      Looks like we've had a massive change in our player list.

                      Sydney Swans | Herald Sun

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                      • goswannie14
                        Leadership Group
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 11166

                        #56
                        Originally posted by wolftone57
                        State of Origin footy stopped because the Vics wouldn't support it. The reason they wouldn't support it, because they were starting to get beaten regularly. This hadn't happened before because they had the best from the other states playing for them, bunch of cheats if you ask me just like NSW in the RL.
                        You seem to have missed the point of the post. It was the VFL/WAFL/SANFL that came up with the concept, not the NSWRFL.
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                        • erica
                          Happy and I know it
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 1247

                          #57
                          Originally posted by wyatt
                          Looks like we've had a massive change in our player list.

                          Sydney Swans | Herald Sun
                          It's probably the red in the guernseys that got them distracted.
                          All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            #58
                            Originally posted by wyatt
                            Looks like we've had a massive change in our player list.

                            Sydney Swans | Herald Sun
                            Ha ha love it! I wouldn't mind G Ablett though.

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                            • Meg
                              Go Swannies!
                              Site Admin
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4828

                              #59
                              Originally posted by erica
                              It's probably the red in the guernseys that got them distracted.
                              This is something I am really annoyed about. Why were the Suns allowed to choose footy outfits so similar to the Swans?

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                              • Triple B
                                Formerly 'BBB'
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6999

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Meg
                                This is something I am really annoyed about. Why were the Suns allowed to choose footy outfits so similar to the Swans?
                                I wonder if Geelong, Norf and Carlton fans ask the same question regularly.

                                Not a biggie to me, the red and yellow of the lifesaver looks a pretty natural fit for the Gold Coast as far as I'm concerned.
                                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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