Another thread about the Melbourne media having NFI about Sydney Footy...

[GongSwan]

I've seen a few of these melbourne based shows, clearly they are not professional journo's, they spend more time laughing at each other and taking the piss than they do on serious footy issues, unless it's a scandal of some description. Seriously, do we expect they will ever change their opinion of us down there. Whay are we always the last game discussed on the AFL Footy Show, with nothing more than a perfunctory glance? I'm really missing the podcast of On the couch ( I can't afford pay tv)

[goswannie14]

Why are so many people paranoid about what the press think about us?

[Primmy]

Why are so many people paranoid about what the press think about us?

Its all about respect. They get the facts about other teams right, so why on earth do the Swans (and probably other interstate teams) get relegated to inadequate, incorrect, dismissive and disinterested information.

We work just as hard as the other teams do. As I said, its all about due respect and not disrespect.

[johnno]

...and according to both Sunday morning football shows this morning down here, Adam Goodes HAS TO GO for at least 1 maybe 2 weeks for his incident with the Port player who's name escapes me........sheeesh, it never ends.

[DLBIA14]

What about MM saying our gameplan hasn't changed? LOL we played a one on one game with short, patient passing. Now we play zone with long direct kicks. Hawthorn play more like old Sydney than we do.

[Melbourne_Blood]

At least he conceded he thinks we'll make the eight now. Onya Mick

[Beerman]

At least he conceded he thinks we'll make the eight now. Onya Mick

I thought Malthouse's assessment of us was ok. We're a lock for the eight, but we need to beat more of the top teams to make the four. Last year we were two from eight (or thereabouts) against Hawthorn, Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and Carlton. When we've won half our games against these teams I'll be convinced.

I thought his comment was more about our style than our game-plan ie. very hard contested footy and good around the stoppages. The game plan has changed completely, but there are certain invariables about Sydney and that's one of them.

[aardvark]

I thought his comment was more about our style than our game-plan ie. very hard contested footy and good around the stoppages. The game plan has changed completely, but there are certain invariables about Sydney and that's one of them.

Yes. Mick has always said we play "Finals type Footy" every week. Why would you play any other way?

[johnno]

Why are so many people paranoid about what the press think about us?

Because being a passionate swans supporter in Melbourne, where you're saturated with everything AFL 24/7, you look forward to these guys/shows talking about and analysing your team in the same manner they would a Collingwood or Carlton, but they dont, in fact most of them clearly know nothing about the Swans, or choose not to.

Now I know the more mainstream media people are ex players and have there own favourite team(most likely the one they played for), but the way these guys sometimes talk about us, I'm convinced they are annoyed with the success we have had(win/loss ratio, never having to bottom out, 2005 premiership, consistently making finals) and at the same time watching their sides linger down the bottom of the table, or not playing much finals. But it still @@@@s me to no end that they constantly underate us or are very dissmissive of us winning certain games.

Theres nothing I look forward to more than when we have a good win on Sat afternoon or Saturday night and than tuning into the 2 Sunday morning footy shows on Ch 7 and Ch 9, only to have them analyse a Collingwood/Carlton/Essendon/hawthorn/Geelong game with the finest of tooth combs, for 10 minutes or until there is nothing more to say and then come to the Swans game and cover it for 30 seconds, trott out the same crap about us playing "that lockdown style of football that the Swans are known for..." and then the host of the show comes back on says we have to go to commercial and I just sit there with a 'What the hell is going on here!!!!' look on my Chevy Chase.

And if thats not bad enough, the Thursday night Footy show has for years, and I am convinced deliberately, previewed our game last out of all the others, even if we are playing on Sat Afternoon, and then go over it for, at best, 5 seconds before rolling the final credits because they've run out of time.

As I said, I'm convinced that its done deliberately as Sydney viewers get the AFL footy show on late after the NRL footy show(the reverse for us here in Melbourne), and when they preview the Swans last on Sydney TV, its going to come on at around 1:00am Sydney time!!!

God, some of these twits had us missing the 8 after our premieship in 05, and some of these twits also had us missing the 8 after we backed up in 06 and lost by a point to West Coast!!!!!

Rant over.

[Dosser]

Because being a passionate swans supporter in Melbourne, where you're saturated with everything AFL 24/7, you look forward to these guys/shows talking about and analysing your team in the same manner they would a Collingwood or Carlton, but they dont, in fact most of them clearly know nothing about the Swans, or choose not to.

Now I know the more mainstream media people are ex players and have there own favourite team(most likely the one they played for), but the way these guys sometimes talk about us, I'm convinced they are annoyed with the success we have had(win/loss ratio, never having to bottom out, 2005 premiership, consistently making finals) and at the same time watching their sides linger down the bottom of the table, or not playing much finals. But it still @@@@s me to no end that they constantly underate us or are very dissmissive of us winning certain games.

Theres nothing I look forward to more than when we have a good win on Sat afternoon or Saturday night and than tuning into the 2 Sunday morning footy shows on Ch 7 and Ch 9, only to have them analyse a Collingwood/Carlton/Essendon/hawthorn/Geelong game with the finest of tooth combs, for 10 minutes or until there is nothing more to say and then come to the Swans game and cover it for 30 seconds, trott out the same crap about us playing "that lockdown style of football that the Swans are known for..." and then the host of the show comes back on says we have to go to commercial and I just sit there with a 'What the hell is going on here!!!!' look on my Chevy Chase.

And if thats not bad enough, the Thursday night Footy show has for years, and I am convinced deliberately, previewed our game last out of all the others, even if we are playing on Sat Afternoon, and then go over it for, at best, 5 seconds before rolling the final credits because they've run out of time.

As I said, I'm convinced that its done deliberately as Sydney viewers get the AFL footy show on late after the NRL footy show(the reverse for us here in Melbourne), and when they preview the Swans last on Sydney TV, its going to come on at around 1:00am Sydney time!!!

God, some of these twits had us missing the 8 after our premieship in 05, and some of these twits also had us missing the 8 after we backed up in 06 and lost by a point to West Coast!!!!!

Rant over.

Johnno - that is EXACTLY why I dont watch any of the footy shows on FTA any more. I dont have Foxtel either, so I have to rely on RWO for a completely unbiased view...

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

I don't watch any of the footy shows nor do i read the afl print media.

The AFL is a big business these days and we all know that newspapers exist to sell papers and make a tidy profit. The AFL has created it's own media and it;s main objection is to make as much money as it can. The biggest clubs are all melbourne based, well thats what the AFL thinks anyway, so it makes perfect business sense to just talk about these victorian clubs in melbourne while glossing over the lesser teams with a less supporter base who will bring in less revenue.

Another massive issue for non victorians who realy on the AFL media is it too centralised in melbourne. The day the AFL decentralise itself and move to a neutral location then we will see less about vic clubs and more about the whole comp. This won't happen though because us victorians are just so invoved in aussie rules that doing so might be to the detriment to the whole league.

It's funny, us Victorians want the game to grow, we want the code to be global, we want it to be the premier sport in Australia BUT at the same time we want it to be a victorian game. The attitude seems to be "Sure you can play in OUR league but remember interstates this is OUR game and should be treated as such"

Also the AFL can start sending a directive to the victorian media to drop the word interstaters. That in itself shows that the AFL is still the VFL in many aspects.

[Dosser]

I don't watch any of the footy shows nor do i read the afl print media.

The AFL is a big business these days and we all know that newspapers exist to sell papers and make a tidy profit. The AFL has created it's own media and it;s main objection is to make as much money as it can. The biggest clubs are all melbourne based, well thats what the AFL thinks anyway, so it makes perfect business sense to just talk about these victorian clubs in melbourne while glossing over the lesser teams with a less supporter base who will bring in less revenue.

Another massive issue for non victorians who realy on the AFL media is it too centralised in melbourne. The day the AFL decentralise itself and move to a neutral location then we will see less about vic clubs and more about the whole comp. This won't happen though because us victorians are just so invoved in aussie rules that doing so might be to the detriment to the whole league.

It's funny, us Victorians want the game to grow, we want the code to be global, we want it to be the premier sport in Australia BUT at the same time we want it to be a victorian game. The attitude seems to be "Sure you can play in OUR league but remember interstates this is OUR game and should be treated as such"

Also the AFL can start sending a directive to the victorian media to drop the word interstaters. That in itself shows that the AFL is still the VFL in many aspects.

Dammit WHTG! I hate it when you make sense!

[johnno]

I don't watch any of the footy shows nor do i read the afl print media.

The AFL is a big business these days and we all know that newspapers exist to sell papers and make a tidy profit. The AFL has created it's own media and it;s main objection is to make as much money as it can. The biggest clubs are all melbourne based, well thats what the AFL thinks anyway, so it makes perfect business sense to just talk about these victorian clubs in melbourne while glossing over the lesser teams with a less supporter base who will bring in less revenue.

Another massive issue for non victorians who realy on the AFL media is it too centralised in melbourne. The day the AFL decentralise itself and move to a neutral location then we will see less about vic clubs and more about the whole comp. This won't happen though because us victorians are just so invoved in aussie rules that doing so might be to the detriment to the whole league.

It's funny, us Victorians want the game to grow, we want the code to be global, we want it to be the premier sport in Australia BUT at the same time we want it to be a victorian game. The attitude seems to be "Sure you can play in OUR league but remember interstates this is OUR game and should be treated as such"

Also the AFL can start sending a directive to the victorian media to drop the word interstaters. That in itself shows that the AFL is still the VFL in many aspects.

Thanks for that, I sort of knew that already but it still bugs me. I mean these guys are paid lots of money for what I believe to be one of the more simplest jobs in the world, they have to watch games of football!!!!

How hard is it to work out who the good teams are, who's in form, how teams are playing, and most importantly in the swans case, who's game style has changed dramatically since 2005!!!!

[WeHaveTheGoodes]

Yeah but it's not going to change, the AFL made sure after the last time no vic team made the finals. You ignore collingwood, carlton, essendon, hawthorn, geelong and you have already eliminated a large amount of revenue right there.

There is no way known to man that the AFL will revert back and allow an even spread of coverage after what victorians consider "the debacle of the first half of last decade" when most of the non vic sides dominated year in year out.

it's why i believe we will never see an interstate side go back to back to back like brisbane did. It's just not in the best interest of the AFL or for footy in victoria. Look at the winners and who has played in GF since 2006..see the pattern?

Everything at present is catered and engineered so that vic clubs have priority exposure in the media and through advertising. Thats why we have a FIXture and not a draw.

[Nico]

Mark Robinson on SEN a few minutes ago:

Daniel Harford: The Swans are sitting pretty at 3rd at the moment.

Robinson: I wouldn't say that, I thought Port was pretty good.

Next throw away line was something like: I suppose it was an away game so you have to give them some credit.

When Robinson is on there is hardly a mention of interstate sides. He just bangs on about Carlton, Collingwood, Richmond (?) Hawthorn and to a lesser extent Essendon. For the record he gave North a rap today. For North even to get a mention is monumental. Problem is they seem to be playing down the win and more Geelong's hard game the week before as the reason for the result.

Unfortunately for a radio station that in its infancy said they didn't care about ratings, they seem to have gone away from their initial mantra of giving a comprehensive coverage of AFL.

They are now similar to the TV shows in that every presenter seems to bang on about the same few topics every week, so you are listening and watching the same crap every day until the next round.