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Leadership on field is where it counts to me. Macca should have been inside that circle. Im not sure whats going on but the Captain needed to be there. He also needs to kick the goals when he has the opportunity instead of dishing off to players in no better position or no better kick than him.
We were flat tonight. Apart from Ben no one really showed grit and fight. And pride. Im concerned. Weve played like this before in one offs but we are in a big hole at the moment. And i dont think im being dramatic. Our form lines read as nothing special now.
We are not a top 8 side. 9-10 at the moment at best.
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Agree McGlynn & Jack were the two who put in that's for sure.I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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I wouldn't go that far, definitely not top 4 from the @@@@ we have dished up but we are better then atleast 10 teams in the comp. Kangaroo's, Demons, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Port, Bulldogs, GWS, Hawthorn, Melbourne and dare i say it saints. Not to mention we can on our good days we can beat the top 4 teams. I don't think it is as gloom and doom as not making the finals quite yet, on our melbourne form yes but anywhere else in the country we are as bigger force as any team.
Our two best players are out atm leaving massive gaps take the two best players out of any team and you will watch the team fail.Comment
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Might be a case of some of our older players just starting to slip past their use by date, and some of our younger players showing their inexperience or ability to play hard week in week out. I think Horse made a mistake starting TDL on the bench, the sub has to be a midfielder, and needs to be rotated to keep some sort of freshness in the legs. I think we got a better idea of where Tommy Walsh is at tonight, and there will be a couple of changes next week, but not tha tmany. AJ looked injured, chance for Armstrong, Walsh will go out with TDL to start. They might rush Mummy back, tho I doubt it, and play the two ruckmen, LRT out. Where we are getting extra midfield grunt from I have no ideaYou can't argue with a sick mind - Joe WalshComment
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Why hasnt LRT been settled back into his old defensive position where he played for all those years? This is a genuine question...what have I missed?Comment
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Well, just back from the game.
That was excruciating to say the least,
Umpiring.
It was really frustrating. Consistently pulling out frees against us and ignoring the same for the Saints. Happened all game. It wouldn't have made a different to the results, but you know, have a good hard look AFL, because it detracts from the game.
Lethargy
The Saints look fast slick and clean in their ball handling. We looked slow, tired and fumbled throughout the game
Forward line
Yes, it's not great but it is not actually the issue, well at least not tonight. It did not get there enough to start with and when it did, the delivery was rubbish. Slow, haphazard, inaccurate, high looping kicks and they often were kicking it to the wrong side of the lead or just ignoring leads. Sam Reid needs to lead a lot harder, but as I think someone else observed, he was consistently blocked off the ball. Albeit Walsh looked like a witches hat, but if you think about it the forward line was stuffed from the start, too many tools (oops, I mean talls) and not enough crumbers. I bet they thought they could exploit the Saint's short backline, but it went quite the other way. After the first quarter, too much half arsed jogging and too little forward pressure.
Midfield
This is where we were killed tonight. I have not checked the stats but it seemed like the Saints got us in clearances and then earned compound interest on their rapid spread. Bird, McVeigh, Kennedy, etc al, looked slow and weak. Consistently bad decision making on options all night causing turnover after turnover, but that was most likely due to the Saints excellent press and general pressure.
Backline.
Absolute rubbish. Just rubbish. I am generally a Reg supporter, but he was pathetic tonight. Riewaldt ran rings around him, with a bit of help from his yellow friends. AJ is injured without a doubt, and I think he took something into the game. Smith had a shocker. They didn't work together as a team and their inability to clear the ball left me tearing my hair out (I think my boy learned a few new words tonight).
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- LRT is cooked. He tries hard but he is pretty ineffectual either in the ruck of as a forward. Time to try something else.
- McVeigh, don't care how many possessions he got, because he just didn't stand up tonight. A lot of his possessions were cheap and his average kick to advantage would be about 7.5m. Dinkly little short passes to little advantage.
- Kennedy has gone off the boil it seems. Not a great game from him, but he had plenty of friends.
- There really are few if any positives to take out of that at all. We clearly are imposters in the top-4 and this year won't be our year (not that I really thought it would be). I know we don't have Goodes, Mummy and the Rooster, but sheesh, all we ask is four quarters of concentration, effort and honesty. None of that tonight.He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.Comment
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With a question mark over AJ arm injury - this may allow LRT to move back and work his way into that form of oldComment
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Cos the game has past him by. He was third best behind Grundy and Richards last year and nothing has changed. He can only play on sluggish forwards - hale is about it in the league these days.Comment
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The coaching staff are a little to blame because it was them that didn't know how to react in the second quarter. It is all very well getting upset and throwing the phone down but do you have something to actually tell the players or a particular player & I don't think our coaching staff can think that fast. The players were terrible! No doubt about that but I think that Longmire should have checked their blocking for Reiwoldt immediately. He didn't and expected the players to work it out! WRONG! Put into place a plan to stop it and implement it immediately. We took too long to react to moves Watters made. No use screaming that we are getting killed in the clearances without doing something interesting to stop it. I would have put ROK in the middle, instead all he could do is put him as a loose man in defence. TDL on the bench was a mistake as we had very few avenues to goal and we did what I hate bombing in long! I think Longmire is a Football Genius! A Genius that will never win us a premiership! TOO SOFT @@@@!Comment
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There was a general lack of movement, leading and presenting. It was an incredibly lazy display. However, when players did bother to run and present, they were ignored and the wrong option was chosen. Lost count of how many times this happened. Not sure which was cause and which effect.He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.Comment
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Agree with Akimbo, the umpiring was a disgrace. Whilst everyone says it doesnt/didnt affect the result, imagine being given 4 goals for nothing and the lift in morale or confidence you get from it. And then imagine the opposite in regards to the momentum and confidence lost from getting close and then having that lumped on you. Scoreboard pressure is a really big thing in footy. I just think we get the rough end of the stick, and its a bit hard to take week in week out.Comment
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I love how LRT always gets the blame after a loss.Comment
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